specifying X11 location

Philip_Schwarz · April 4, 2018, 3:05pm

Hello,

I am trying to install radiance on Linux 64 (in a docker container based on
https://hub.docker.com/_/amazonlinux/)

When I run ‘makeall install’ I get 10 errors of the following type: *fatal
error: *X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory

I believe this is because I don’t have X11 installed. I have a /usr/lib64/X11
directory but it is empty.

There is a library for amazonlinux called libX11 (https://aws.amazon.com/
amazon-linux-ami/2017.09-packages/), so I installed it: yum install
libX11-1.6.0.

I can ask what was installed:

sh-4.2# repoquery --list libX11

/usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1

/usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

/usr/lib/libX11.so.6

/usr/lib/libX11.so.6.3.0

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0

sh-4.2#

How do I now change the -L option of the rmake command to reflect my
environment?

The current value is ‘-L/usr/X11R6/lib’

I tried changing it to ‘-L/usr/lib64’ but I still get the X11-related
fatal errors.

I also tried copying the libX11 files from /usr/lib/ to /usr/lib64/X11 and
setting -L to '-L/usr/lib64/X11' but I get the same errors.

Have you come across this problem before?

Any suggestions as to how to address the problem?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

Philip_Schwarz · April 4, 2018, 5:54pm

Hello,

In Radiance/noX11.help at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub I see the
following:

If you have X11 installed but in a non-standard location, you only need
to edit the rmake script to add the needed -I and -L options.

I think that by 'add the needed -I and -L options." it really means modify
the existing -I and -L options to reflect the location of X11.
Is that right?

In Radiance/makeall at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub I see

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

Am I right in thinking that I just need to replace /usr/X11R6/lib and/or
/usr/include/X11 with alternative absolute paths, and the build should work?

My X11 installation consists of the following four files:

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0

How should I change the -L and -I options. Do I need to have both -L and -I
or just one of them?

Is this what I need?:

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/lib64 -I/usr/lib64
-DNOSTEREO"

When I run makeall install, I am given the opportunity to change the line
interactively. Is that all I need to do, or should I make the change myself
directly to the makeall file?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

P.S. If the solution involves setting up symbolic links (preferably not),
can you please go into details? Thanks.

···

On 4 April 2018 at 16:05, Philip Schwarz < [email protected]> wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to install radiance on Linux 64 (in a docker container based on
https://hub.docker.com/_/amazonlinux/\)

When I run ‘makeall install’ I get 10 errors of the following type: *fatal
error: *X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory

I believe this is because I don’t have X11 installed. I have a /usr/lib64/X11
directory but it is empty.

There is a library for amazonlinux called libX11 (
AWS | Amazon Linux AMI), so I
installed it: yum install libX11-1.6.0.

I can ask what was installed:

sh-4.2# repoquery --list libX11

/usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1

/usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

/usr/lib/libX11.so.6

/usr/lib/libX11.so.6.3.0

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0

sh-4.2#

How do I now change the -L option of the rmake command to reflect my
environment?

The current value is ‘-L/usr/X11R6/lib’

I tried changing it to ‘-L/usr/lib64’ but I still get the X11-related
fatal errors.

I also tried copying the libX11 files from /usr/lib/ to /usr/lib64/X11
and setting -L to '-L/usr/lib64/X11' but I get the same errors.

Have you come across this problem before?

Any suggestions as to how to address the problem?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

Philip_Schwarz · April 4, 2018, 5:59pm

btw, I received an email confirming that I have joined the mailing list,
but when I send an email to the list I am told the message is awaiting
moderation because I am not a member.

Philip

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On 4 April 2018 at 18:54, Philip Schwarz < [email protected]> wrote:

Hello,

In Radiance/noX11.help at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub I see the
following:

If you have X11 installed but in a non-standard location, you only need
to edit the rmake script to add the needed -I and -L options.

I think that by 'add the needed -I and -L options." it really means
modify the existing -I and -L options to reflect the location of X11.
Is that right?

In Radiance/makeall at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub I see

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

Am I right in thinking that I just need to replace /usr/X11R6/lib and/or
/usr/include/X11 with alternative absolute paths, and the build should
work?

My X11 installation consists of the following four files:

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0

How should I change the -L and -I options. Do I need to have both -L and
-I or just one of them?

Is this what I need?:

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/lib64 -I/usr/lib64
-DNOSTEREO"

When I run makeall install, I am given the opportunity to change the line
interactively. Is that all I need to do, or should I make the change myself
directly to the makeall file?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

P.S. If the solution involves setting up symbolic links (preferably not),
can you please go into details? Thanks.

On 4 April 2018 at 16:05, Philip Schwarz <philip.johann.schwarz@ > googlemail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to install radiance on Linux 64 (in a docker container based
on https://hub.docker.com/_/amazonlinux/\)

When I run ‘makeall install’ I get 10 errors of the following type: *fatal
error: *X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory

I believe this is because I don’t have X11 installed. I have a /usr/lib64/X11
directory but it is empty.

There is a library for amazonlinux called libX11 (
AWS | Amazon Linux AMI), so I
installed it: yum install libX11-1.6.0.

I can ask what was installed:

sh-4.2# repoquery --list libX11

/usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1

/usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

/usr/lib/libX11.so.6

/usr/lib/libX11.so.6.3.0

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0

sh-4.2#

How do I now change the -L option of the rmake command to reflect my
environment?

The current value is ‘-L/usr/X11R6/lib’

I tried changing it to ‘-L/usr/lib64’ but I still get the X11-related
fatal errors.

I also tried copying the libX11 files from /usr/lib/ to /usr/lib64/X11
and setting -L to '-L/usr/lib64/X11' but I get the same errors.

Have you come across this problem before?

Any suggestions as to how to address the problem?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

Axel_Jacobs2 · April 4, 2018, 7:27pm

If you're compiling Radiance yourself, you not only need the X11 libs, but also the X11-development libs, as well as a few other build dependencies. Is there something like libX11-dev for Amazon LINUX?

A

···

On 04/04/18 18:54, Philip Schwarz wrote:

Hello,

In Radiance/noX11.help at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub I see the following:
If you have X11 installed but in a non\-standard location, you only need to edit the rmake script to add the needed \-I and \-L options\.
I think that by 'add the needed -I and -L options." it really means modify the existing -I and -L options to reflect the location of X11.
Is that right?

In Radiance/makeall at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub I see

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

Am I right in thinking that I just need to replace /usr/X11R6/lib and/or /usr/include/X11with alternative absolute paths, and the build should work?

My X11 installation consists of the following four files:

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1

/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6

/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0

How should I change the -L and -I options. Do I need to have both -L and -I or just one of them?

Is this what I need?:

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/lib64 -I/usr/lib64 -DNOSTEREO"

When I run makeall install, I am given the opportunity to change the line interactively. Is that all I need to do, or should I make the change myself directly to the makeall file?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

P.S. If the solution involves setting up symbolic links (preferably not), can you please go into details? Thanks.

On 4 April 2018 at 16:05, Philip Schwarz > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hello,

    I am trying to install radiance on Linux 64 (in a docker container
    based onhttps://hub.docker.com/_/amazonlinux/
    <https://hub.docker.com/_/amazonlinux/>\)

    When I run ‘makeall install’ I get 10 errors of the following
    type:*fatal error:*X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory

    I believe this is because I don’t have X11 installed. I have
    a/usr/lib64/X11 directory but it is empty.

    There is a library for amazonlinux called libX11
    (AWS | Amazon Linux AMI
    <https://aws.amazon.com/amazon-linux-ami/2017.09-packages/>\), so I
    installed it: yum install libX11-1.6.0.

    I can ask what was installed:

    sh-4.2# repoquery --list libX11

    /usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1

    /usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

    /usr/lib/libX11.so.6

    /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.3.0

    /usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1

    /usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0

    /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6

    /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0

    sh-4.2#

    How do I now change the -L option of the rmake command to reflect my
    environment?

    The current value is‘-L/usr/X11R6/lib’

    I tried changing it to ‘-L/usr/lib64’but I still get the X11-related
    fatal errors.

    I also tried copying the libX11 files from /usr/lib/ to
    /usr/lib64/X11 and setting -L to '-L/usr/lib64/X11' but I get the
    same errors.

    Have you come across this problem before?

    Any suggestions as to how to address the problem?

    Thank you in advance for your help.

    Philip Schwarz

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Randolph_Fritz4 · April 4, 2018, 7:58pm

I think you need at least the "xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.7” package, or whatever the current version is. That has at least some of the headers. You may need some other packages, but that’s a place to start.

Might want to try asking on Amazon’s developer forums or Amazon technical support directly, if Amazon offers any.

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On Apr 4, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Axel Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:

If you're compiling Radiance yourself, you not only need the X11 libs, but also the X11-development libs, as well as a few other build dependencies. Is there something like libX11-dev for Amazon LINUX?

A

On 04/04/18 18:54, Philip Schwarz wrote:

Hello,
In Radiance/noX11.help at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub I see the following:
   If you have X11 installed but in a non-standard location, you only need to edit the rmake script to add the needed -I and -L options.
I think that by 'add the needed -I and -L options." it really means modify the existing -I and -L options to reflect the location of X11.
Is that right?
In Radiance/makeall at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub I see
set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"
Am I right in thinking that I just need to replace /usr/X11R6/lib and/or /usr/include/X11with alternative absolute paths, and the build should work?
My X11 installation consists of the following four files:
/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1
/usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0
/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6
/usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0
How should I change the -L and -I options. Do I need to have both -L and -I or just one of them?
Is this what I need?:
set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/lib64 -I/usr/lib64 -DNOSTEREO"
When I run makeall install, I am given the opportunity to change the line interactively. Is that all I need to do, or should I make the change myself directly to the makeall file?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Philip Schwarz
P.S. If the solution involves setting up symbolic links (preferably not), can you please go into details? Thanks.
On 4 April 2018 at 16:05, Philip Schwarz <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
   Hello,
   I am trying to install radiance on Linux 64 (in a docker container
   based onhttps://hub.docker.com/_/amazonlinux/
   <https://hub.docker.com/_/amazonlinux/>\)
   When I run ‘makeall install’ I get 10 errors of the following
   type:*fatal error:*X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
   I believe this is because I don’t have X11 installed. I have
   a/usr/lib64/X11 directory but it is empty.
   There is a library for amazonlinux called libX11
   (AWS | Amazon Linux AMI
   <https://aws.amazon.com/amazon-linux-ami/2017.09-packages/>\), so I
   installed it: yum install libX11-1.6.0.
   I can ask what was installed:
   sh-4.2# repoquery --list libX11
   /usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1
   /usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0
   /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
   /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.3.0
   /usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1
   /usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0
   /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6
   /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0
   sh-4.2#
   How do I now change the -L option of the rmake command to reflect my
   environment?
   The current value is‘-L/usr/X11R6/lib’
   I tried changing it to ‘-L/usr/lib64’but I still get the X11-related
   fatal errors.
   I also tried copying the libX11 files from /usr/lib/ to
   /usr/lib64/X11 and setting -L to '-L/usr/lib64/X11' but I get the
   same errors.
   Have you come across this problem before?
   Any suggestions as to how to address the problem?
   Thank you in advance for your help.
   Philip Schwarz
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Philip_Schwarz · April 5, 2018, 2:36pm

Hello Axel,

thank you very much! There is such a library: libX11-devel. I
installed it and ran 'makeall install' without editing the -L and -I
options, and the 10 X11-related compilation errors are no longer
occurring.

I'll follow up in a separate email to talk further about this.

Philip

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but also the X11-development libs, as well as a few other build
dependencies. Is there something like libX11-dev for Amazon LINUX?

A

On 04/04/18 18:54, Philip Schwarz wrote:

* Hello,

*> >* In Radiance/noX11.help at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub
<https://github.com/NREL/Radiance/blob/master/noX11.help> I see the
*>* following:
*> >* If you have X11 installed but in a non-standard location, you only
*>* need to edit the rmake script to add the needed -I and -L options.
*> > >* I think that by 'add the needed -I and -L options." it really means
*>* modify the existing -I and -L options to reflect the location of X11.
*>* Is that right?
*> >* In Radiance/makeall at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub
<Radiance/makeall at master · NREL/Radiance · GitHub; I see
*> >* set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib
*>* -I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"
*> >* Am I right in thinking that I just need to replace /usr/X11R6/lib and/or
*>* /usr/include/X11with alternative absolute paths, and the build should work?
*> >* My X11 installation consists of the following four files:
*> >* /usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1
*> >* /usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0
*> >* /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6
*> >* /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0
*> > >* How should I change the -L and -I options. Do I need to have
both -L and
*>* -I or just one of them?
*> >* Is this what I need?:
*> >* set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/lib64 -I/usr/lib64
*>* -DNOSTEREO"
*> >* When I run makeall install, I am given the opportunity to change the
*>* line interactively. Is that all I need to do, or should I make the
*>* change myself directly to the makeall file?
*> >* Thank you in advance for your help.
*> >* Philip Schwarz
*> >* P.S. If the solution involves setting up symbolic links (preferably
*>* not), can you please go into details? Thanks.
*> > > > >* On 4 April 2018 at 16:05, Philip Schwarz
*>* <philip.johann.schwarz at googlemail.com
<https://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-dev>
*>* <mailto:philip.johann.schwarz at googlemail.com
<https://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-dev>>>
wrote:
*> >* Hello,
*> > >* I am trying to install radiance on Linux 64 (in a docker container
*>* based onhttps://hub.docker.com/_/amazonlinux/
*>* <https://hub.docker.com/_/amazonlinux/
<https://hub.docker.com/_/amazonlinux/>>\)
*> > >* When I run ‘makeall install’ I get 10 errors of the following
*>* type:*fatal error:*X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
*> > >* I believe this is because I don’t have X11 installed. I have
*>* a/usr/lib64/X11 directory but it is empty.
*> > >* There is a library for amazonlinux called libX11
*>* (AWS | Amazon Linux AMI
<https://aws.amazon.com/amazon-linux-ami/2017.09-packages/>
*>* <AWS | Amazon Linux AMI
<https://aws.amazon.com/amazon-linux-ami/2017.09-packages/>>\), so I
*>* installed it: yum install libX11-1.6.0.
*> > >* I can ask what was installed:
*> > >* sh-4.2# repoquery --list libX11
*> >* /usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1
*> >* /usr/lib/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0
*> >* /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
*> >* /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.3.0
*> >* /usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1
*> >* /usr/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1.0.0
*> >* /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6
*> >* /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6.3.0
*> >* sh-4.2#
*> > >* How do I now change the -L option of the rmake command to reflect my
*>* environment?
*> > >* The current value is‘-L/usr/X11R6/lib’
*> > >* I tried changing it to ‘-L/usr/lib64’but I still get the X11-related
*>* fatal errors.
*> > >* I also tried copying the libX11 files from /usr/lib/ to
*>* /usr/lib64/X11 and setting -L to '-L/usr/lib64/X11' but I get the
*>* same errors.
*> > >* Have you come across this problem before?
*> > >* Any suggestions as to how to address the problem?
*> > >* Thank you in advance for your help.
*> > >* Philip Schwarz
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Philip_Schwarz · April 5, 2018, 7:19pm

Hello,

should I be concerned about the fact that installing libX11 and
libX11-devel seems to have been sufficient in order to eliminate the
X11-related compilation errors?

I expected to also have to change the -L option to point to /usr/lib64 in
the following

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

That's because I don't have a /usr/X11R6/lib directory (but I have some X11
files in /usr/lib64 instead, due to having installed libX11).
I didn't expect to have to edit the -I option because I do have a
/usr/include/X11
directory, due to having installed libX11-devel.

Thoughts?

Also, our application uses Radiance in headless mode (no UI).
Am I right in thinking that whilst installing X11 is necessary in order to
get a clean build, many of the resulting binaries can be run without X11.

E.g. am I right in thinking that I can run oconv and rtrace without X11?

Is there some resource that can be used to determine which Radiance
binaries rely on X11 and which don't?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

Randolph_Fritz4 · April 5, 2018, 9:24pm

should I be concerned about the fact that installing libX11 and libX11-devel seems to have been sufficient in order to eliminate the X11-related compilation errors?

No. There’s probably a symlink that’s covering that.

Also, our application uses Radiance in headless mode (no UI).
Am I right in thinking that whilst installing X11 is necessary in order to get a clean build, many of the resulting binaries can be run without X11. E.g. am I right in thinking that I can run oconv and rtrace without X11?

That’s correct. If you want to use any of the X11 programs remotely, you can run an X server on the system you are accessing your Amazon system from.

Is there some resource that can be used to determine which Radiance binaries rely on X11 and which don't?

Mmmm…”ldd” will probably tell you, if the build script uses shared libraries. But only the programs that have graphical interfaces use X11 anyway.

···

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On Apr 5, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Philip Schwarz <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,

should I be concerned about the fact that installing libX11 and libX11-devel seems to have been sufficient in order to eliminate the X11-related compilation errors?

I expected to also have to change the -L option to point to /usr/lib64 in the following

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

That's because I don't have a /usr/X11R6/lib directory (but I have some X11 files in /usr/lib64 instead, due to having installed libX11).
I didn't expect to have to edit the -I option because I do have a /usr/include/X11 directory, due to having installed libX11-devel.

Thoughts?

Also, our application uses Radiance in headless mode (no UI).
Am I right in thinking that whilst installing X11 is necessary in order to get a clean build, many of the resulting binaries can be run without X11.

E.g. am I right in thinking that I can run oconv and rtrace without X11?

Is there some resource that can be used to determine which Radiance binaries rely on X11 and which don't?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

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Lars_Grobe · April 6, 2018, 11:43am

Hi Philip,

as far as I understand you, the aim is to get a minimalistic Radiance rendering node. For that, I would propose to exclude all the X11, tcl-tk and tiff stuff. You will probably not work interactively on the node but get the results transferred to a local work-station, where you could do all file conversion and display work. You may also remove all the example files from the lib directory. The question is how to best implement all this in a makefile, so that you do not get all the errors. I have to admit that the many build systems around in Radiance are confusing... Maybe editing the rmakefiles, and setting up a new target such as "minimal-install" would be a good start.

Cheers, Lars.

···

Hello,

should I be concerned about the fact that installing libX11 and libX11-devel seems to have been sufficient in order to eliminate the X11-related compilation errors?

I expected to also have to change the -L option to point to /usr/lib64 in the following

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

That's becauseI don't have a/usr/X11R6/lib directory (but I have some X11 files in /usr/lib64 instead, due to having installedlibX11).
I didn't expect to have to edit the -I option because I do have a /usr/include/X11 directory, due to having installed libX11-devel.

Thoughts?

Also, our application uses Radiance in headless mode (no UI).
Am I right in thinking that whilst installing X11 is necessary in order to get a clean build, many of the resulting binaries can be run without X11.

E.g. am I right in thinking that I can run oconv and rtrace without X11?

Is there some resource that can be used to determine which Radiance binaries rely on X11 and which don't?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

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Philip_Schwarz · April 6, 2018, 2:41pm

Thanks Lars,

If I look at the contents of rad5R1supp.tar.gz
<https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/radiance-source-code/latest-release/radR51supp.tar.gz>
(I
would look at the equivalent for 5.0, the version I am targeting, but it
doesn't seem to exist - it looks like core and auxiliary files are bundled
together in

rad5R0all.tar.gz
<https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/radiance-source-code/archived-releases/radiance-5.0/rad5R0all.tar.gz>\),
I see the following:

doc 102KB

lib 371 MB

obj 2.6MB

src 9.3 MB

src just contains px/tiff, which you explained I can exclude

doc is just documentation so can be excluded

lib is the large one - what do you mean when you say "You may also remove
all the example files from the lib directory" - can the whole directory be
excluded?

what about the obj directory? You didn't mention it: can all of it be
excluded? It contains the following subdirectories:

alpha

cabin

misc

office

texture

virtual

Also, in a context in which I am only running binaries oconv and rtrace, is
it the case that none of the auxiliary files are needed? If not, which ones
are needed?

Your help with the above would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Philip

···

On 6 April 2018 at 12:43, Lars O. Grobe <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Philip,

as far as I understand you, the aim is to get a minimalistic Radiance
rendering node. For that, I would propose to exclude all the X11, tcl-tk
and tiff stuff. You will probably not work interactively on the node but
get the results transferred to a local work-station, where you could do all
file conversion and display work. You may also remove all the example files
from the lib directory. The question is how to best implement all this in a
makefile, so that you do not get all the errors. I have to admit that the
many build systems around in Radiance are confusing... Maybe editing the
rmakefiles, and setting up a new target such as "minimal-install" would be
a good start.

Cheers, Lars.

Hello,

should I be concerned about the fact that installing libX11 and
libX11-devel seems to have been sufficient in order to eliminate the
X11-related compilation errors?

I expected to also have to change the -L option to point to /usr/lib64 in
the following

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

That's because I don't have a /usr/X11R6/lib directory (but I have some
X11 files in /usr/lib64 instead, due to having installed libX11).
I didn't expect to have to edit the -I option because I do have a /usr/include/X11
directory, due to having installed libX11-devel.

Thoughts?

Also, our application uses Radiance in headless mode (no UI).
Am I right in thinking that whilst installing X11 is necessary in order to
get a clean build, many of the resulting binaries can be run without X11.

E.g. am I right in thinking that I can run oconv and rtrace without X11?

Is there some resource that can be used to determine which Radiance
binaries rely on X11 and which don't?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

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Rob_Guglielmetti · April 6, 2018, 2:50pm

Hang on, if you're really only using oconv and rtrace, not only do you not
need libtiff, you don't even need X11 at all. And the obj directory can be
ignored as well, those are all sample scenes and stuff.

···

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Philip Schwarz < [email protected]> wrote:

Thanks Lars,

If I look at the contents of rad5R1supp.tar.gz
<https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/radiance-source-code/latest-release/radR51supp.tar.gz> (I
would look at the equivalent for 5.0, the version I am targeting, but it
doesn't seem to exist - it looks like core and auxiliary files are bundled
together in

rad5R0all.tar.gz
<https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/radiance-source-code/archived-releases/radiance-5.0/rad5R0all.tar.gz>\),
I see the following:

doc 102KB

lib 371 MB

obj 2.6MB

src 9.3 MB

src just contains px/tiff, which you explained I can exclude

doc is just documentation so can be excluded

lib is the large one - what do you mean when you say "You may also remove
all the example files from the lib directory" - can the whole directory be
excluded?

what about the obj directory? You didn't mention it: can all of it be
excluded? It contains the following subdirectories:

alpha

cabin

misc

office

texture

virtual

Also, in a context in which I am only running binaries oconv and rtrace,
is it the case that none of the auxiliary files are needed? If not, which
ones are needed?

Your help with the above would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Philip

On 6 April 2018 at 12:43, Lars O. Grobe <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Philip,

as far as I understand you, the aim is to get a minimalistic Radiance
rendering node. For that, I would propose to exclude all the X11, tcl-tk
and tiff stuff. You will probably not work interactively on the node but
get the results transferred to a local work-station, where you could do all
file conversion and display work. You may also remove all the example files
from the lib directory. The question is how to best implement all this in a
makefile, so that you do not get all the errors. I have to admit that the
many build systems around in Radiance are confusing... Maybe editing the
rmakefiles, and setting up a new target such as "minimal-install" would be
a good start.

Cheers, Lars.

Hello,

should I be concerned about the fact that installing libX11 and
libX11-devel seems to have been sufficient in order to eliminate the
X11-related compilation errors?

I expected to also have to change the -L option to point to /usr/lib64 in
the following

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

That's because I don't have a /usr/X11R6/lib directory (but I have some
X11 files in /usr/lib64 instead, due to having installed libX11).
I didn't expect to have to edit the -I option because I do have a /usr/include/X11
directory, due to having installed libX11-devel.

Thoughts?

Also, our application uses Radiance in headless mode (no UI).
Am I right in thinking that whilst installing X11 is necessary in order
to get a clean build, many of the resulting binaries can be run without
X11.

E.g. am I right in thinking that I can run oconv and rtrace without X11?

Is there some resource that can be used to determine which Radiance
binaries rely on X11 and which don't?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

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Philip_Schwarz · April 6, 2018, 3:02pm

Hello Rob,

what about the lib directory? Are you in a position to elaborate on Lars'
following suggestion: "You may also remove all the example files from the
lib directory"

if you're really only using oconv and rtrace, not only do you not need

libtiff,
Yes, initially at least, we plan to use just oconv and rtrace. We probably
want to use additional binaries in future.

you don't even need X11 at all.

Do you just mean that we could have ignored the X11-related compilation
errors? (we bothered to include X11 libraries at build time to get as clean
a compilation as possible, to be sure that the binaries we get out of the
build are in a healthy state). Or do you mean this implies certain
auxiliary files can be excluded?

And the obj directory can be ignored as well, those are all sample scenes

and stuff.
good to know

Thanks for your help,

Philip

···

On 6 April 2018 at 15:50, Rob Guglielmetti <[email protected]> wrote:

Hang on, if you're really only using oconv and rtrace, not only do you not
need libtiff, you don't even need X11 at all. And the obj directory can be
ignored as well, those are all sample scenes and stuff.

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Philip Schwarz <philip.johann.schwarz@ > googlemail.com> wrote:

Thanks Lars,

If I look at the contents of rad5R1supp.tar.gz
<https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/radiance-source-code/latest-release/radR51supp.tar.gz> (I
would look at the equivalent for 5.0, the version I am targeting, but it
doesn't seem to exist - it looks like core and auxiliary files are bundled
together in

rad5R0all.tar.gz
<https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/radiance-source-code/archived-releases/radiance-5.0/rad5R0all.tar.gz>\),
I see the following:

doc 102KB

lib 371 MB

obj 2.6MB

src 9.3 MB

src just contains px/tiff, which you explained I can exclude

doc is just documentation so can be excluded

lib is the large one - what do you mean when you say "You may also
remove all the example files from the lib directory" - can the whole
directory be excluded?

what about the obj directory? You didn't mention it: can all of it be
excluded? It contains the following subdirectories:

alpha

cabin

misc

office

texture

virtual

Also, in a context in which I am only running binaries oconv and rtrace,
is it the case that none of the auxiliary files are needed? If not, which
ones are needed?

Your help with the above would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Philip

On 6 April 2018 at 12:43, Lars O. Grobe <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Philip,

as far as I understand you, the aim is to get a minimalistic Radiance
rendering node. For that, I would propose to exclude all the X11, tcl-tk
and tiff stuff. You will probably not work interactively on the node but
get the results transferred to a local work-station, where you could do all
file conversion and display work. You may also remove all the example files
from the lib directory. The question is how to best implement all this in a
makefile, so that you do not get all the errors. I have to admit that the
many build systems around in Radiance are confusing... Maybe editing the
rmakefiles, and setting up a new target such as "minimal-install" would be
a good start.

Cheers, Lars.

Hello,

should I be concerned about the fact that installing libX11 and
libX11-devel seems to have been sufficient in order to eliminate the
X11-related compilation errors?

I expected to also have to change the -L option to point to /usr/lib64 in
the following

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

That's because I don't have a /usr/X11R6/lib directory (but I have some
X11 files in /usr/lib64 instead, due to having installed libX11).
I didn't expect to have to edit the -I option because I do have a /usr/include/X11
directory, due to having installed libX11-devel.

Thoughts?

Also, our application uses Radiance in headless mode (no UI).
Am I right in thinking that whilst installing X11 is necessary in order
to get a clean build, many of the resulting binaries can be run without
X11.

E.g. am I right in thinking that I can run oconv and rtrace without X11?

Is there some resource that can be used to determine which Radiance
binaries rely on X11 and which don't?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

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Philip_Schwarz · April 6, 2018, 3:40pm

@Rob @Lars

"You may also remove all the example files from the lib directory"

The majority, if not all of the files in the lib directory seem to be
example files which we are unlikely to need:

What about these subdirectories of lib (odd: a lib dir within a lib dir) ?

Is there anything in these that is not aimed at providing examples, or that
is otherwise needed to run radiance binaries?

Thanks,

Philip

···

On 6 April 2018 at 16:02, Philip Schwarz < [email protected]> wrote:

Hello Rob,

what about the lib directory? Are you in a position to elaborate on Lars'
following suggestion: "You may also remove all the example files from the
lib directory"

>if you're really only using oconv and rtrace, not only do you not need
libtiff,
Yes, initially at least, we plan to use just oconv and rtrace. We probably
want to use additional binaries in future.

>you don't even need X11 at all.
Do you just mean that we could have ignored the X11-related compilation
errors? (we bothered to include X11 libraries at build time to get as clean
a compilation as possible, to be sure that the binaries we get out of the
build are in a healthy state). Or do you mean this implies certain
auxiliary files can be excluded?

>And the obj directory can be ignored as well, those are all sample
scenes and stuff.
good to know

Thanks for your help,

Philip

On 6 April 2018 at 15:50, Rob Guglielmetti <[email protected]> > wrote:

Hang on, if you're really only using oconv and rtrace, not only do you
not need libtiff, you don't even need X11 at all. And the obj directory can
be ignored as well, those are all sample scenes and stuff.

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Philip Schwarz < >> [email protected]> wrote:

Thanks Lars,

If I look at the contents of rad5R1supp.tar.gz
<https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/radiance-source-code/latest-release/radR51supp.tar.gz> (I
would look at the equivalent for 5.0, the version I am targeting, but it
doesn't seem to exist - it looks like core and auxiliary files are bundled
together in

rad5R0all.tar.gz
<https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/radiance-source-code/archived-releases/radiance-5.0/rad5R0all.tar.gz>\),
I see the following:

doc 102KB

lib 371 MB

obj 2.6MB

src 9.3 MB

src just contains px/tiff, which you explained I can exclude

doc is just documentation so can be excluded

lib is the large one - what do you mean when you say "You may also
remove all the example files from the lib directory" - can the whole
directory be excluded?

what about the obj directory? You didn't mention it: can all of it be
excluded? It contains the following subdirectories:

alpha

cabin

misc

office

texture

virtual

Also, in a context in which I am only running binaries oconv and rtrace,
is it the case that none of the auxiliary files are needed? If not, which
ones are needed?

Your help with the above would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Philip

On 6 April 2018 at 12:43, Lars O. Grobe <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Philip,

as far as I understand you, the aim is to get a minimalistic Radiance
rendering node. For that, I would propose to exclude all the X11, tcl-tk
and tiff stuff. You will probably not work interactively on the node but
get the results transferred to a local work-station, where you could do all
file conversion and display work. You may also remove all the example files
from the lib directory. The question is how to best implement all this in a
makefile, so that you do not get all the errors. I have to admit that the
many build systems around in Radiance are confusing... Maybe editing the
rmakefiles, and setting up a new target such as "minimal-install" would be
a good start.

Cheers, Lars.

Hello,

should I be concerned about the fact that installing libX11 and
libX11-devel seems to have been sufficient in order to eliminate the
X11-related compilation errors?

I expected to also have to change the -L option to point to
/usr/lib64 in the following

set mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

That's because I don't have a /usr/X11R6/lib directory (but I have
some X11 files in /usr/lib64 instead, due to having installed libX11).
I didn't expect to have to edit the -I option because I do have a /usr/include/X11
directory, due to having installed libX11-devel.

Thoughts?

Also, our application uses Radiance in headless mode (no UI).
Am I right in thinking that whilst installing X11 is necessary in order
to get a clean build, many of the resulting binaries can be run without
X11.

E.g. am I right in thinking that I can run oconv and rtrace without X11?

Is there some resource that can be used to determine which Radiance
binaries rely on X11 and which don't?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Philip Schwarz

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Guglielmetti_Robert · April 6, 2018, 4:12pm

X11 is just for rvu, the Radiance scene viewer, and holodeck. IMO rvu is very helpful for playing with options and for setting up views to be rendered, but if you're focused on point calcs you really don't need it.

    Hello Rob,

    what
     about the lib directory? Are you in a position to elaborate on Lars' following suggestion: "You
     may also remove all the example files from the lib directory"

    >if
     you're really only using oconv and rtrace, not only do you not need libtiff,

    Yes,
     initially at least, we plan to use just oconv and rtrace. We probably want to use additional binaries in future.

    >you
     don't even need X11 at all.

    Do you just mean that we could have ignored the X11-related compilation errors? (we bothered to include X11 libraries at build time to get as clean a compilation as possible, to be sure that the binaries we get out of the build are in a healthy state).
     Or do you mean this implies certain auxiliary files can be excluded?

    >And
     the obj directory can be ignored as well, those are all sample scenes and stuff.
    good
     to know

    Thanks
     for your help,

    Philip

···

On 4/6/18, 9:03 AM, "Philip Schwarz" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6 April 2018 at 15:50, Rob Guglielmetti <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hang on, if you're really only using oconv and rtrace, not only do you not need libtiff, you don't even need X11 at all. And the obj directory can be ignored as well, those are all sample scenes and stuff.

    On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Philip Schwarz <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thanks Lars,

    If I look at the contents of rad5R1supp.tar.gz <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.radiance-online.org%2Fdownload-install%2Fradiance-source-code%2Flatest-release%2FradR51supp.tar.gz&data=02|01|robert.guglielmetti%40nrel.gov|95c353084fc84383636608d59bcf81a4|a0f29d7e28cd4f5484427885aee7c080|0|1|636586237915189308&sdata=cEe2SjeR%2BHXDxlk1Me9iu%2BkiaIIljNQ9LrWSrnP%2BlNw%3D&reserved=0> (I
     would look at the equivalent for 5.0, the version I am targeting, but it doesn't seem to exist - it looks like core and auxiliary files are bundled together in
    rad5R0all.tar.gz <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.radiance-online.org%2Fdownload-install%2Fradiance-source-code%2Farchived-releases%2Fradiance-5.0%2Frad5R0all.tar.gz&data=02|01|robert.guglielmetti%40nrel.gov|95c353084fc84383636608d59bcf81a4|a0f29d7e28cd4f5484427885aee7c080|0|1|636586237915189308&sdata=emFEVWi%2F6EVzQ18jTAnDRFTnU7IfgUAysAzUW3P1rg4%3D&reserved=0>),
     I see the following:

    doc 102KB
    lib 371 MB
    obj 2.6MB
    src 9.3 MB

    src just contains px/tiff, which you explained I can exclude

    doc is just documentation so can be excluded

    lib is the large one - what do you mean when you say "You
     may also remove all the example files from the lib directory" - can the whole directory be excluded?

    what
     about the obj directory? You didn't mention it: can all of it be excluded? It contains the following subdirectories:
    alpha
    cabin
    misc
    office
    texture
    virtual

    Also, in a context in which I am only running binaries oconv and rtrace, is it the case that none of the auxiliary files are needed? If not, which ones are needed?

    Your help with the above would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Philip

    On 6 April 2018 at 12:43, Lars O. Grobe <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi Philip,
    as far as I understand you, the aim is to get a minimalistic Radiance rendering node. For that, I would propose to exclude all the X11, tcl-tk and tiff stuff. You will probably not work interactively on the node
     but get the results transferred to a local work-station, where you could do all file conversion and display work. You may also remove all the example files from the lib directory. The question is how to best implement all this in a makefile, so that you do
     not get all the errors. I have to admit that the many build systems around in Radiance are confusing... Maybe editing the rmakefiles, and setting up a new target such as "minimal-install" would be a good start.

    Cheers, Lars.

    Hello,

    should I be concerned about the fact that installing libX11 and libX11-devel seems to have been sufficient in order to eliminate the X11-related compilation errors?

    I expected to also have to change the -L option to point to
    /usr/lib64 in the following

    set
     mach="-Dlinux -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -I/usr/include/X11 -DNOSTEREO"

    That's
     because I
     don't have a /usr/X11R6/lib
    directory (but
     I have some X11 files in /usr/lib64 instead, due to having installed libX11).
    I didn't expect to have to edit the -I option because I do have a
    /usr/include/X11 directory, due to having installed libX11-devel.

    Thoughts?

    Also, our application uses Radiance in headless mode (no UI).
    Am I right in thinking that whilst installing X11 is necessary in order to get a clean build, many of the resulting binaries can be run without X11.

    E.g. am I right in thinking that I can run oconv and rtrace without X11?

    Is there some resource that can be used to determine which Radiance binaries rely on X11 and which don't?

    Thank you in advance for your help.

    Philip Schwarz

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Lars_Grobe · April 8, 2018, 6:47pm

Hi Philip,

don't worry about the "healthy state" of the executables. Make sure that you have oconv ("pre-sorting" your geometry), vwrays (generating rays for given projections), rtrace (the fundamental ray-tracer), rpict (a ray-tracer for images), rcalc (a calculator for tabular data), and the various generators (especially gensky). As long as they build, they will do, and you may simply ignore build errors as long as you get what you need.

From the lib directory, you will at least need rayinit.cal. If you are aiming at CBDM, you also need the directional basis definitions according to Klems, Reinhart et al. These are somewhat scattered over directorys, best is to check your particular commands and collect them from the source tree in one central lib-directory which you would include in your RAYPATH. The various .cal-files have descriptions of their intended use included as comment lines, they are useful (e.g. for interpolation, mapping, color conversions) and definitely worth browsing, but not critical for plain ray-tracing.

Cheers, Lars.

···

Do you just mean that we could have ignored the X11-related compilation
errors? (we bothered to include X11 libraries at build time to get as clean
a compilation as possible, to be sure that the binaries we get out of the
build are in a healthy state). Or do you mean this implies certain
auxiliary files can be excluded?

Randolph_Fritz4 · April 8, 2018, 11:55pm

As far as specifying X11 location; if this is a need – and I have found it
sometimes useful – the usual way this is done is via an X server running on
your desktop system and ssh. The specifics depend on the details of the
desktop system. If it is a Windows system, the inexpensive solution is the
Xming X server and the PuTTY application. This page gives a summary of the
setup procedure: http://www.geo.mtu.edu/geoschem/docs/putty_install.html\.
On a Mac, one uses XQuartz and the usual Mac terminal application.
Unix-like systems run X11 natively, and one can simply use ssh from a
window. For all of these, you may have to turn X Windows ssh access on on
your Amazon LInux instance.

···

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On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Lars O. Grobe <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Philip,

don't worry about the "healthy state" of the executables. Make sure that
you have oconv ("pre-sorting" your geometry), vwrays (generating rays for
given projections), rtrace (the fundamental ray-tracer), rpict (a
ray-tracer for images), rcalc (a calculator for tabular data), and the
various generators (especially gensky). As long as they build, they will
do, and you may simply ignore build errors as long as you get what you need.

From the lib directory, you will at least need rayinit.cal. If you are
aiming at CBDM, you also need the directional basis definitions according
to Klems, Reinhart et al. These are somewhat scattered over directorys,
best is to check your particular commands and collect them from the source
tree in one central lib-directory which you would include in your RAYPATH.
The various .cal-files have descriptions of their intended use included as
comment lines, they are useful (e.g. for interpolation, mapping, color
conversions) and definitely worth browsing, but not critical for plain
ray-tracing.

Cheers, Lars.

Do you just mean that we could have ignored the X11-related compilation
errors? (we bothered to include X11 libraries at build time to get as
clean
a compilation as possible, to be sure that the binaries we get out of the
build are in a healthy state). Or do you mean this implies certain
auxiliary files can be excluded?

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Randolph_Fritz4 · April 8, 2018, 11:57pm

I see I didn't make clear that in these procedures ssh sets the DISPLAY
variable on the Amazon Linux instance, so that one need only connect and
ideally everything else just works.

···

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On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Randolph M. Fritz <[email protected]> wrote:

As far as specifying X11 location; if this is a need – and I have found it
sometimes useful – the usual way this is done is via an X server running on
your desktop system and ssh. The specifics depend on the details of the
desktop system. If it is a Windows system, the inexpensive solution is the
Xming X server and the PuTTY application. This page gives a summary of the
setup procedure: http://www.geo.mtu.edu/geoschem/docs/putty_install.html\.
On a Mac, one uses XQuartz and the usual Mac terminal application.
Unix-like systems run X11 natively, and one can simply use ssh from a
window. For all of these, you may have to turn X Windows ssh access on on
your Amazon LInux instance.

--
Randolph M. Fritz || +1 206 659-8617 || [email protected]

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Lars O. Grobe <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Philip,

don't worry about the "healthy state" of the executables. Make sure that
you have oconv ("pre-sorting" your geometry), vwrays (generating rays for
given projections), rtrace (the fundamental ray-tracer), rpict (a
ray-tracer for images), rcalc (a calculator for tabular data), and the
various generators (especially gensky). As long as they build, they will
do, and you may simply ignore build errors as long as you get what you need.

From the lib directory, you will at least need rayinit.cal. If you are
aiming at CBDM, you also need the directional basis definitions according
to Klems, Reinhart et al. These are somewhat scattered over directorys,
best is to check your particular commands and collect them from the source
tree in one central lib-directory which you would include in your RAYPATH.
The various .cal-files have descriptions of their intended use included as
comment lines, they are useful (e.g. for interpolation, mapping, color
conversions) and definitely worth browsing, but not critical for plain
ray-tracing.

Cheers, Lars.

Do you just mean that we could have ignored the X11-related compilation
errors? (we bothered to include X11 libraries at build time to get as
clean
a compilation as possible, to be sure that the binaries we get out of the
build are in a healthy state). Or do you mean this implies certain
auxiliary files can be excluded?

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