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When you export 3d geometry from rino you have a choice of the file type
(3d studio, dxf etc) and you also have the choice (a slider bar) of how
much detail to export for complex surfaces. If the stuff that's in your
masterplan is rectilinear (i.e. not a bunch of NURBS objects) then this
slider should be almost all the way to the left (for less detail). That
might be where all those triangles are coming from, as rino is designed to
model complex shapes like sailboat hulls, it has to reduce its curvy
objects to faceted objects (so other programs can read them) and if it
adds too many triangles then the file will be unnessicarily large for what
you want to do.

is it a DXF file? It probably should be. (just a guess : ) )

Also, how large is the file size? Maybe you can ask for your architect to
supply you with several exports, low, med and high file size exports of
the same geometry.

It's been a few years since I have used rino extensively so i hope this
helps.

-Kyle

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Lawrence Berkeley National Lab (LBNL)
UC Berkeley Center for the Built Environment (CBE)
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Hi All,

I've got a model from an architect, built in Rhino, that I need to get
into Radiance. Typically we do this via Ecotect, exporting 3ds files
from Rhino, importing into Ecotect, and using Ecotect to generate my rad
files. However, this model is just a mess once it's imported into
Ecotect - even the flat facades are a mess of triangles, and the reduce
coincident triangles/polygons command is all but worthless. The Rhino
model is actually fairly complex, it's a masterplan with 20 or so
towers, but even doing just one building is going to take me a day to
clean up. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Cramer

J. Cramer Silkworth

Transsolar Climate Engineering

Technical consulting for energy efficiency and environmental quality in
buildings.

145 Hudson Street

Suite 402

New York, NY 10013

Office: 212-219-2255

Mobile: 347-283-2547

[email protected]

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Hi Cramer,

try obj2rad. Therefore you simply have to export parts of the model as
Wavefront(*.obj) in rhino.
Then you can convert them with: obj2rad *.obj > *.rad.

Afterwards it's pretty simple and fast to import these *.rad files into
ecotec again.

Kind regards,
Kai

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Hi All,

I've got a model from an architect, built in Rhino, that I need to get
into Radiance. Typically we do this via Ecotect, exporting 3ds files
from Rhino, importing into Ecotect, and using Ecotect to generate my rad
files. However, this model is just a mess once it's imported into
Ecotect - even the flat facades are a mess of triangles, and the reduce
coincident triangles/polygons command is all but worthless. The Rhino
model is actually fairly complex, it's a masterplan with 20 or so
towers, but even doing just one building is going to take me a day to
clean up. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Cramer

J. Cramer Silkworth

Transsolar Climate Engineering

Technical consulting for energy efficiency and environmental quality in
buildings.

145 Hudson Street

Suite 402

New York, NY 10013

Office: 212-219-2255

Mobile: 347-283-2547

[email protected]

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Hi Cramer,

Other solution:
export file from rhino to dxf, then you can convert them with: dxf2rad
*.dxf > *.rad

Kind regards,
Giorgio Butturini

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:48:07 +0200
From: "Cramer Silkworth" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Radiance-general] rhino - ecotect - radiance issues
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Hi All,

I've got a model from an architect, built in Rhino, that I need to get
into Radiance. Typically we do this via Ecotect, exporting 3ds files
from Rhino, importing into Ecotect, and using Ecotect to generate my rad
files. However, this model is just a mess once it's imported into
Ecotect - even the flat facades are a mess of triangles, and the reduce
coincident triangles/polygons command is all but worthless. The Rhino
model is actually fairly complex, it's a masterplan with 20 or so
towers, but even doing just one building is going to take me a day to
clean up. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Cramer

J. Cramer Silkworth

Transsolar Climate Engineering

Technical consulting for energy efficiency and environmental quality in
buildings.

145 Hudson Street

Suite 402

New York, NY 10013

Office: 212-219-2255

Mobile: 347-283-2547

[email protected]

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Hi Cramer,

try obj2rad. Therefore you simply have to export parts of the model as
Wavefront(*.obj) in rhino.
Then you can convert them with: obj2rad *.obj > *.rad.

Afterwards it's pretty simple and fast to import these *.rad files into
ecotec again.

Kind regards,
Kai

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Von: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von
Cramer Silkworth
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Oktober 2008 18:48
An: [email protected]
Betreff: [Radiance-general] rhino - ecotect - radiance issues

Hi All,

I've got a model from an architect, built in Rhino, that I need to get
into Radiance. Typically we do this via Ecotect, exporting 3ds files
from Rhino, importing into Ecotect, and using Ecotect to generate my rad
files. However, this model is just a mess once it's imported into
Ecotect - even the flat facades are a mess of triangles, and the reduce
coincident triangles/polygons command is all but worthless. The Rhino
model is actually fairly complex, it's a masterplan with 20 or so
towers, but even doing just one building is going to take me a day to
clean up. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Cramer

J. Cramer Silkworth

Transsolar Climate Engineering

Technical consulting for energy efficiency and environmental quality in
buildings.

145 Hudson Street

Suite 402

New York, NY 10013

Office: 212-219-2255

Mobile: 347-283-2547

[email protected]

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