Evening all.
Let the evening mail session begin ...
How about if I alternatively scanned the page for something like
<p id="keywords">....</p> and
<p id="description">....</p>, in case there are no valid meta tags.
You could then hide the two paragraphs with your CSS.
No changes for me, please! I already had META tag support
in the script, I just dropped it during the last rewrite.
Adding it in again is probably only a matter of the right
printf statement.
The problem I see is that some activity from the side of
the site admin is required. This will stop most good content
out there from being added to the database due to laziness
or lack of time.
I understand the wish to allow only authorised people to submit
new pages but wouldn't it be a bonus if others could submit
interesting pages they found on there web searching tours?
Perhaps these submits should be approved before they are allowed
into the database. I expect, though, that for your scripts to
work - and in fact the whole logic behind it - the presence of
the META tags is required.
Well, yes and no is the answer. RadHub is meant to be
a) fully automated
... except for the fact that someone has to nag someone else
to do two other things to get the site registered. Google
works without that.
b) indexable by keywords
Google does that.
c) ordered by popularity
Google does that, too.
d) community-driven
Ah! Don't ask what RadHub can do for you ...
Sorry, I may read a bit sharp here. I think it's a good
thing what your trying to do. But this won't stop me thinking
about how it could be made better which - for a community site
- usually means easier to use.
So somebody will have to sit down and think about the keywords.
And who would be better suited than the author of the submitting
site?
Agreed. But what if the author can't be bothered with the idea
or doesn't have any influence on the way the document is published?
A good RadHub will not remain restricted to pure Radiance. Think
about special HDR cameras or photometers. Companies selling these
products might outsource their internet presence or even use the
service of a web designer (shudder)!
With regards to submitting a 3rd party site, what I had in mind is that
people would get in touch with the author, and e-mail them a copy of The
Missing Manual cover page (See under Art Work), asking them nicely to have
their pages indexed.
Nice cover. Did remind me of the Radiance book I always wanted
someone else to write 
This submitting stuff could be simplified (for the submitter)
with another form which takes the URL and (ideally) the email
address of the webmaster and sends a polite invite along the
lines of:
"Dear webmaster of shining.site.com
Your site has been recommended for addition to the RadHub
online database (see http://radhub.luxal.eu). There is nothing
to be gained but fame, there are no costs but a few minutes of
your time.
If you would like to add your site please follow the procedure
outlined on http://radhub.luxal.eu/submit.shtml\.
Thank you for your time.
Your RadHub bot"
Combined with some spam prevention and tracking (we don't want
to spam people who obviously don't have an interest in adding
their sites, do we?) this would make it a one copy-paste-click
action to submit a good site.
Ideally this should be enough for the RadHub bot to jump into
action and get some sense out of the submitted URL (using meta
tags or the full text content). You can add admin approval after
that if you wish but, in essence, that's what the community rating
is for.
Ah well, these are my thoughts about the topic which are not
only RadHub thought but have evolved thinking about the structure
of our department's image library - which is good as long as you
know in advance what you're looking for and where to find it ...
Thomas
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On 27 Jul 2006, at 13:17, Axel Jacobs wrote: