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Hi All,

How can I get learnix copy? And is learnix much different/better than knoppix itself for running radiance?

Regards
ikrima

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:58:40 -0700
From: Greg Ward <[email protected]>
To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with
  Rcollate.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions? Honestly, I don't know why redirecting stdin from a file would fail completely. I thought this was supported under Windows.

I'm stumped.

-G

From: "Sarith Subramaniam" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
Date: June 15, 2015 9:45:56 PM PDT

Hi Greg,

The command that you suggested returns the usage options for rcollate
in windows. (ie. Usage: rcollate [-h[io]???..)

Earlier, I had tried feeding the file to rcollate via stdin through using pipe ( | ) as well as the ?type a.txt? shell command in windows but didn?t get it work either way.

Thanks,
Sarith

From: Greg Ward [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:04 AM
To: Radiance general discussion
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.

Hi Sarith,

This seems related to the broken handling of text versus binary files under Windows. Try reading the file from stdin, instead:

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t < a.txt > d.txt

If this works, let me know and I'll see if I can put in a fix.

Cheers,
-Greg

From: "Sarith Subramaniam" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
Date: June 15, 2015 5:09:13 PM PDT

Hi everyone,

I am trying to do a transpose with rcollate. My operating system is Windows. My file contains rgb triplets arranged in a (8760columns x 60rows) matrix. I either get a ?error loading file into memory? or an incorrect transpose.

I found that I got the same results with a simple ASCII file with tab separated values. My file contains:

1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12

The following commands return ?error loading file into memory?:

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t a.txt >d.txt

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?oc 3?t a.txt >d.txt

I found that the ?-t? flag was responsible for the error, so I tried explicitly stating the values for columns and rows as:

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?ir 3 ?oc 3 ?ir 4 a.txt>d.txt

This gave me.
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
10 11 12

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Sarith
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:50:19 +0200
From: David Geisler-Moroder <[email protected]>
To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with
  Rcollate.
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Hi Sarith,

I just tried both calls (with and w/o redirecting from stdin) with the latest Windows binaries from NREL(https://github.com/NREL/Radiance/releases)
and both work fine at my side...

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t a.txt > d.txt
rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t < a.txt > d.txt

Which version of rcollate are you using?

Best,
David

2015-06-16 6:58 GMT+02:00 Greg Ward <[email protected]>:

Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions? Honestly, I don't know why
redirecting stdin from a file would fail completely. I thought this
was supported under Windows.

I'm stumped.

-G

*From: *"Sarith Subramaniam" <[email protected]>

*Subject: *Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.

*Date: *June 15, 2015 9:45:56 PM PDT

Hi Greg,

The command that you suggested returns the usage options for rcollate
in windows. (ie. Usage: rcollate [-h[io]???..)

Earlier, I had tried feeding the file to rcollate via stdin through
using pipe ( | ) as well as the ?type a.txt? shell command in windows
but didn?t get it work either way.

Thanks,

Sarith

*From:* Greg Ward [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:04 AM
*To:* Radiance general discussion
*Subject:* Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.

Hi Sarith,

This seems related to the broken handling of text versus binary files
under Windows. Try reading the file from stdin, instead:

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t < a.txt > d.txt

If this works, let me know and I'll see if I can put in a fix.

Cheers,

-Greg

*From: *"Sarith Subramaniam" <[email protected]>

*Subject: *[Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.

*Date: *June 15, 2015 5:09:13 PM PDT

Hi everyone,

I am trying to do a transpose with rcollate. My operating system is
Windows. My file contains rgb triplets arranged in a (8760columns x
60rows) matrix. I either get a ?error loading file into memory? or an
incorrect transpose.

I found that I got the same results with a simple ASCII file with tab
separated values. My file contains:

1 2 3 4

5 6 7 8

9 10 11 12

The following commands return ?error loading file into memory?:

*rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t a.txt >d.txt*

*rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?oc 3?t a.txt >d.txt*

I found that the ?-t? flag was responsible for the error, so I tried
explicitly stating the values for columns and rows as:

*rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?ir 3 ?oc 3 ?ir 4 a.txt>d.txt*

This gave me.

1 2 3

4 5 6

7 8 9

10 11 12

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Sarith

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Hi Ikrima,

I'm afraid LEARNIX is no longer maintained. You can still download the ISO image from here: http://www.jaloxa.eu/mirrors/learnix/index.shtml
but be aware that the latest release is from 2011.

Chances are that if you run it on hardware later than 2011, you will get problems, which are most likely to show up with weird display issues, or networking hardware not working.

To add insult to injury, the copy of Radiance that comes with this old LEARNIX CD-ROM is from, well... 2011.

You are much better off trying out a bootable UBUNTU CD-ROM or DVD. If you read the 'Running LEARNIX' PDF, available under 'Documentation', you'll find a number of different ways of running LINUX alongside or within Windows.

Installing Radiance from the standard Debian or Ubuntu repositories is fairly straight-forward.

Hope you will succeed with you endeavour.

Best

Axel

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On 16/06/15 17:32, Ikrima Amaireh wrote:

Hi All,

How can I get learnix copy? And is learnix much different/better than knoppix itself for running radiance?

Regards
ikrima

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Subject: Radiance-general Digest, Vol 136, Issue 19

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    1. Re: Errors while transposing with Rcollate. (Greg Ward)
    2. Re: Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
       (David Geisler-Moroder)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:58:40 -0700
From: Greg Ward <[email protected]>
To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with
  Rcollate.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions? Honestly, I don't know why redirecting stdin from a file would fail completely. I thought this was supported under Windows.

I'm stumped.

-G

From: "Sarith Subramaniam" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
Date: June 15, 2015 9:45:56 PM PDT

Hi Greg,

The command that you suggested returns the usage options for rcollate
in windows. (ie. Usage: rcollate [-h[io]???..)

Earlier, I had tried feeding the file to rcollate via stdin through using pipe ( | ) as well as the ?type a.txt? shell command in windows but didn?t get it work either way.

Thanks,
Sarith

From: Greg Ward [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:04 AM
To: Radiance general discussion
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.

Hi Sarith,

This seems related to the broken handling of text versus binary files under Windows. Try reading the file from stdin, instead:

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t < a.txt > d.txt

If this works, let me know and I'll see if I can put in a fix.

Cheers,
-Greg

From: "Sarith Subramaniam" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.
Date: June 15, 2015 5:09:13 PM PDT

Hi everyone,

I am trying to do a transpose with rcollate. My operating system is Windows. My file contains rgb triplets arranged in a (8760columns x 60rows) matrix. I either get a ?error loading file into memory? or an incorrect transpose.

I found that I got the same results with a simple ASCII file with tab separated values. My file contains:

1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12

The following commands return ?error loading file into memory?:

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t a.txt >d.txt

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?oc 3?t a.txt >d.txt

I found that the ?-t? flag was responsible for the error, so I tried explicitly stating the values for columns and rows as:

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?ir 3 ?oc 3 ?ir 4 a.txt>d.txt

This gave me.
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
10 11 12

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Sarith
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:50:19 +0200
From: David Geisler-Moroder <[email protected]>
To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with
  Rcollate.
Message-ID:
  <CA[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Sarith,

I just tried both calls (with and w/o redirecting from stdin) with the latest Windows binaries from NREL(https://github.com/NREL/Radiance/releases)
and both work fine at my side...

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t a.txt > d.txt
rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t < a.txt > d.txt

Which version of rcollate are you using?

Best,
David

2015-06-16 6:58 GMT+02:00 Greg Ward <[email protected]>:

Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions? Honestly, I don't know why
redirecting stdin from a file would fail completely. I thought this
was supported under Windows.

I'm stumped.

-G

*From: *"Sarith Subramaniam" <[email protected]>

*Subject: *Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.

*Date: *June 15, 2015 9:45:56 PM PDT

  Hi Greg,

The command that you suggested returns the usage options for rcollate
in windows. (ie. Usage: rcollate [-h[io]???..)

Earlier, I had tried feeding the file to rcollate via stdin through
using pipe ( | ) as well as the ?type a.txt? shell command in windows
but didn?t get it work either way.

Thanks,

Sarith

*From:* Greg Ward [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:04 AM
*To:* Radiance general discussion
*Subject:* Re: [Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.

Hi Sarith,

This seems related to the broken handling of text versus binary files
under Windows. Try reading the file from stdin, instead:

rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t < a.txt > d.txt

If this works, let me know and I'll see if I can put in a fix.

Cheers,

-Greg

*From: *"Sarith Subramaniam" <[email protected]>

*Subject: *[Radiance-general] Errors while transposing with Rcollate.

*Date: *June 15, 2015 5:09:13 PM PDT

Hi everyone,

I am trying to do a transpose with rcollate. My operating system is
Windows. My file contains rgb triplets arranged in a (8760columns x
60rows) matrix. I either get a ?error loading file into memory? or an
incorrect transpose.

I found that I got the same results with a simple ASCII file with tab
separated values. My file contains:

1 2 3 4

5 6 7 8

9 10 11 12

The following commands return ?error loading file into memory?:

*rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?t a.txt >d.txt*

*rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?oc 3?t a.txt >d.txt*

I found that the ?-t? flag was responsible for the error, so I tried
explicitly stating the values for columns and rows as:

*rcollate ?h ?fa1 ?ic 4 ?ir 3 ?oc 3 ?ir 4 a.txt>d.txt*

This gave me.

1 2 3

4 5 6

7 8 9

10 11 12

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Sarith

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Axel,
The Radiance package in Learnix may be outdated, but I think the standard Ubuntu packages aren't much better. Looks like Radiance 4R1 from 2012:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=radiance
Picking a more current version from the NREL github seems to be the most user-friendly method to get the current version (even then you'll have to decide if you stick to the "latest release" version 4.2.2 from 2014 or to get the most recent bug fixes that are in all the successive versions following that).

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Hi Chris,

thanks for pointing this out. I tend to compile Radiance from source
on all of my machine, which is why I didn't realise it is no longer
maintained as a Debian/Ubuntu package. Debian's package tracker lists
it as removed from Testing: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/radiance

According to the package tracker, the following actions are needed:
- Does not build reproducibly during testing
- The package has not entered testing even though the delay is over
- The package depends on source packages which need a new maintainer.
- lintian reports 278 warnings
- Build log checks report 2 warnings

So that's probably the end of it :frowning:

Best

Axel

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On 17 June 2015 at 14:13, Christopher Rush <[email protected]> wrote:

Axel,
The Radiance package in Learnix may be outdated, but I think the standard Ubuntu packages aren't much better. Looks like Radiance 4R1 from 2012:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=radiance
Picking a more current version from the NREL github seems to be the most user-friendly method to get the current version (even then you'll have to decide if you stick to the "latest release" version 4.2.2 from 2014 or to get the most recent bug fixes that are in all the successive versions following that).
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