BSDFviewer

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1

Hi Everyone,

A long time ago I developed a utility to interactively visualize data
contained in BSDF files. I found it extremely useful, so I shared it with
a few others who also found it useful. We decided to release it publicly
and now, a year later, I am *officially* allowed to share it.

You can download installers for windows and linux here:
https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/bsdf-viewer
If you want to use it on Linux let me know, I can send you something that
you can test for me.

It was written using processing which is Java based. Processing is maybe
not the best for this, but I started there with something very simple, and
as things tend to go it got complex pretty quick.

The mac version supports tensor tree BSDFs the Windows version only
supports Klems BSDFs.

I hope you find it useful.

Andy

PS - It's a bit rough around the edges, sorry. Please report bugs that
prevent you from being able to use it and I will try to fix them quickly.

2

Great! Thanks a lot, Andy! I'm thinking about creating an
interactive viewer also using Processing to visualise Radiance geometry,
sensors, and simulation results. Might need your help along the way. - Ji

在 2013年1月18日星期五，Andrew McNeil 写道：

···

Hi Everyone,

A long time ago I developed a utility to interactively visualize data
contained in BSDF files. I found it extremely useful, so I shared it with
a few others who also found it useful. We decided to release it publicly
and now, a year later, I am *officially* allowed to share it.

You can download installers for windows and linux here:
https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/bsdf-viewer
If you want to use it on Linux let me know, I can send you something that
you can test for me.

It was written using processing which is Java based. Processing is maybe
not the best for this, but I started there with something very simple, and
as things tend to go it got complex pretty quick.

The mac version supports tensor tree BSDFs the Windows version only
supports Klems BSDFs.

I hope you find it useful.

Andy

PS - It's a bit rough around the edges, sorry. Please report bugs that
prevent you from being able to use it and I will try to fix them quickly.

3

I have been using it for the last few weeks, on MAC... it works great,
thanks!

···

2013/1/17 Ji Zhang <[email protected]>

Great! Thanks a lot, Andy! I'm thinking about creating an
interactive viewer also using Processing to visualise Radiance geometry,
sensors, and simulation results. Might need your help along the way. - Ji

在 2013年1月18日星期五，Andrew McNeil 写道：

Hi Everyone,

A long time ago I developed a utility to interactively visualize data
contained in BSDF files. I found it extremely useful, so I shared it with
a few others who also found it useful. We decided to release it publicly
and now, a year later, I am *officially* allowed to share it.

You can download installers for windows and linux here:
https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/bsdf-viewer
If you want to use it on Linux let me know, I can send you something that
you can test for me.

It was written using processing which is Java based. Processing is maybe
not the best for this, but I started there with something very simple, and
as things tend to go it got complex pretty quick.

The mac version supports tensor tree BSDFs the Windows version only
supports Klems BSDFs.

I hope you find it useful.

Andy

PS - It's a bit rough around the edges, sorry. Please report bugs that
prevent you from being able to use it and I will try to fix them quickly.

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I should mention that I uploaded a new version for Mac yesterday (v1.3)
that fixes some issues with tensor trees. So if you have a
pre-announcement version for Mac, you should download a new one.

Also I have a few example BSDFs here if you want to try BSDF viewer but
don't want to generate a BSDF yourself:
http://gaia.lbl.gov/people/andy/public/BSDFs/

Andy

···

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Germán Molina Larrain <[email protected]>wrote:

I have been using it for the last few weeks, on MAC... it works great,
thanks!

2013/1/17 Ji Zhang <[email protected]>

Great! Thanks a lot, Andy! I'm thinking about creating an
interactive viewer also using Processing to visualise Radiance geometry,
sensors, and simulation results. Might need your help along the way. - Ji

在 2013年1月18日星期五，Andrew McNeil 写道：

Hi Everyone,

A long time ago I developed a utility to interactively visualize data
contained in BSDF files. I found it extremely useful, so I shared it with
a few others who also found it useful. We decided to release it publicly
and now, a year later, I am *officially* allowed to share it.

You can download installers for windows and linux here:
https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/bsdf-viewer
If you want to use it on Linux let me know, I can send you something
that you can test for me.

It was written using processing which is Java based. Processing is
maybe not the best for this, but I started there with something very
simple, and as things tend to go it got complex pretty quick.

The mac version supports tensor tree BSDFs the Windows version only
supports Klems BSDFs.

I hope you find it useful.

Andy

PS - It's a bit rough around the edges, sorry. Please report bugs that
prevent you from being able to use it and I will try to fix them quickly.

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Andy,

Linux version for me, please.

Thanks,

Ery

···

On 01/17/2013 07:21 PM, Andrew McNeil wrote:

Hi Everyone,

A long time ago I developed a utility to interactively visualize data contained in BSDF files. I found it extremely useful, so I shared it with a few others who also found it useful. We decided to release it publicly and now, a year later, I am *officially* allowed to share it.

You can download installers for windows and linux here:
https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/bsdf-viewer
If you want to use it on Linux let me know, I can send you something that you can test for me.

It was written using processing which is Java based. Processing is maybe not the best for this, but I started there with something very simple, and as things tend to go it got complex pretty quick.

The mac version supports tensor tree BSDFs the Windows version only supports Klems BSDFs.

I hope you find it useful.

Andy

PS - It's a bit rough around the edges, sorry. Please report bugs that prevent you from being able to use it and I will try to fix them quickly.

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That's great! Thanks for sharing Andy.

I've tried uncompressing the sample BSDF .xml files you linked too, but can't seem to get legible files after unzipping them on MAC OSX 10.5? Anyone else tried successfully?
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On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Andrew McNeil wrote:

I should mention that I uploaded a new version for Mac yesterday (v1.3) that fixes some issues with tensor trees. So if you have a pre-announcement version for Mac, you should download a new one.

Also I have a few example BSDFs here if you want to try BSDF viewer but don't want to generate a BSDF yourself: http://gaia.lbl.gov/people/andy/public/BSDFs/

Andy

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Germán Molina Larrain > <[email protected]> wrote:
I have been using it for the last few weeks, on MAC... it works great, thanks!

2013/1/17 Ji Zhang <[email protected]>
Great! Thanks a lot, Andy! I'm thinking about creating an interactive viewer also using Processing to visualise Radiance geometry, sensors, and simulation results. Might need your help along the way. - Ji

在 2013年1月18日星期五，Andrew McNeil 写道：

Hi Everyone,

A long time ago I developed a utility to interactively visualize data contained in BSDF files. I found it extremely useful, so I shared it with a few others who also found it useful. We decided to release it publicly and now, a year later, I am *officially* allowed to share it.

You can download installers for windows and linux here:
https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/bsdf-viewer
If you want to use it on Linux let me know, I can send you something that you can test for me.

It was written using processing which is Java based. Processing is maybe not the best for this, but I started there with something very simple, and as things tend to go it got complex pretty quick.

The mac version supports tensor tree BSDFs the Windows version only supports Klems BSDFs.

I hope you find it useful.

Andy

PS - It's a bit rough around the edges, sorry. Please report bugs that prevent you from being able to use it and I will try to fix them quickly.

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The links for the BSDF files were broken. I've just fixed them. You
should be able to download them now.
Andy

···

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Humann Chris <[email protected]> wrote:

That's great! Thanks for sharing Andy.

I've tried uncompressing the sample BSDF .xml files you linked too, but
can't seem to get legible files after unzipping them on MAC OSX 10.5?
Anyone else tried successfully?
Christian Humann ~ Associate
*LOISOS *+* UBBELOHDE*
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
1917 Clement Avenue Building 10A
Alameda, CA 94501 USA
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510 521 3800 VOICE
510 521 3820 FAX
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On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Andrew McNeil wrote:

I should mention that I uploaded a new version for Mac yesterday (v1.3)
that fixes some issues with tensor trees. So if you have a
pre-announcement version for Mac, you should download a new one.

Also I have a few example BSDFs here if you want to try BSDF viewer but
don't want to generate a BSDF yourself:
http://gaia.lbl.gov/people/andy/public/BSDFs/

Andy

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Germán Molina Larrain <[email protected]>wrote:

I have been using it for the last few weeks, on MAC... it works great,
thanks!

2013/1/17 Ji Zhang <[email protected]>

Great! Thanks a lot, Andy! I'm thinking about creating an
interactive viewer also using Processing to visualise Radiance geometry,
sensors, and simulation results. Might need your help along the way. - Ji

在 2013年1月18日星期五，Andrew McNeil 写道：

Hi Everyone,

A long time ago I developed a utility to interactively visualize data
contained in BSDF files. I found it extremely useful, so I shared it with
a few others who also found it useful. We decided to release it publicly
and now, a year later, I am *officially* allowed to share it.

You can download installers for windows and linux here:
https://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/bsdf-viewer
If you want to use it on Linux let me know, I can send you something
that you can test for me.

It was written using processing which is Java based. Processing is
maybe not the best for this, but I started there with something very
simple, and as things tend to go it got complex pretty quick.

The mac version supports tensor tree BSDFs the Windows version only
supports Klems BSDFs.

I hope you find it useful.

Andy

PS - It's a bit rough around the edges, sorry. Please report bugs that
prevent you from being able to use it and I will try to fix them quickly.

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Hi there,

I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.

Kind regards,
Andre

9

Andre,

download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.

Thanks!
Andy

···

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi there,

I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.

Kind regards,
Andre

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Hi Andy,

I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First it
complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed to be
in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
"BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible with
i386:x86-64 output

It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.

Am I missing some updated files or something else?

Thanks!
Zack

···

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

Andre,

download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.

Thanks!
Andy

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected]>wrote:

Hi there,

I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.

Kind regards,
Andre

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11

Hi Zack,
Sorry, the BSDFViewer folder should have been in the tar file. Using an
old one won't work.

here's a link to a new tar file which includes the missing directory:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.tar

Andy

PS - Still working on answering all the questions in your previous email...

···

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Zack Rogers < [email protected]> wrote:

Hi Andy,

I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First it
complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed to be
in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
"BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
with i386:x86-64 output

It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.

Am I missing some updated files or something else?

Thanks!
Zack

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

Andre,

download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.

Thanks!
Andy

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected]>wrote:

Hi there,

I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.

Kind regards,
Andre

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Sorry new link, zip not tar:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.zip

···

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Zack,
Sorry, the BSDFViewer folder should have been in the tar file. Using an
old one won't work.

here's a link to a new tar file which includes the missing directory:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.tar

Andy

PS - Still working on answering all the questions in your previous email...

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Zack Rogers < > [email protected]> wrote:

Hi Andy,

I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First it
complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed to be
in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
"BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
with i386:x86-64 output

It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.

Am I missing some updated files or something else?

Thanks!
Zack

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

Andre,

download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.

Thanks!
Andy

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected]>wrote:

Hi there,

I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.

Kind regards,
Andre

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Dear Andrew,

I missed the first versions and the links are no longer available. I
downloaded the last version you provided ( 1.3a_ubuntu.zip) and it seems
some source files from the common radiance source folder are missing for
succesfull compilation :
cone.c cone.h face.c face.h free_os.c image.c instance.c
instance.h loadvars.c mesh.c mesh.h modobject.c otypes.c
otypes.h readmesh.c readobj.c readoct.c sceneio.c tmapluv.c
tmaptiff.c tmaptiff.h
(i copied them from the radiance-HEAD source available on
radiance-online.org)

Then there is a java issue
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/include/jni.h:45:20: fatal error: jni_md.h: No
such file or directory
this error comes from the fact that the file is located in the
include/linux rep. (
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-hdfs-dev/201205.mbox/<117050669.38033.1336464885155.JavaMail.tomcat@hel.zones.apache.org>
)

And now it works!!

Thanks! You just provided me with a great tool that will be quite usefull.
It would be even more if i can directly load a bsdf.xml file from the
comand line (or by an other way). Ist that possible??

I see this ubuntu version includes tensor trees. That is great! I have been
reading a bit about tensor trees and would like to use them to create bsdf
from the simulation of complex fenestration systems. I looked at the code
in the genbsdf routine that creates the tensor tree but i am realy not
familiar with perl... then i found the bsdf_t files in the common dir of
radiance. Is there any specific documentation about this, or an example i
could start from to create and store tensor tree bsdfs?? Idealy i would
like to create a C++ object to do that... Any help or advice would be
greatly apriciated.

Kind Regards.

Andre

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:21:10 -0600
From: Zack Rogers <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] BSDFviewer
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Hi Andy,

I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First it
complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed to be
in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
"BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible with
i386:x86-64 output

It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.

Am I missing some updated files or something else?

Thanks!
Zack

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Andre,
>
> download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>
> Thanks!
> Andy
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] > >wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Andre
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Hi Zack,
Sorry, the BSDFViewer folder should have been in the tar file. Using an
old one won't work.

here's a link to a new tar file which includes the missing directory:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.tar

Andy

PS - Still working on answering all the questions in your previous email...

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Zack Rogers < > [email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Andy,
>
> I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First it
> complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed to
be
> in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
> "BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
> errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:
>
> /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
> with i386:x86-64 output
>
> It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.
>
> Am I missing some updated files or something else?
>
> Thanks!
> Zack
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Andre,
>>
>> download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
>> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
>> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] > >wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Andre
>>>
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From: Andrew McNeil <[email protected]>
To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] BSDFviewer
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Sorry new link, zip not tar:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.zip

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Zack,
> Sorry, the BSDFViewer folder should have been in the tar file. Using an
> old one won't work.
>
> here's a link to a new tar file which includes the missing directory:
> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.tar
>
> Andy
>
> PS - Still working on answering all the questions in your previous
email...
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Zack Rogers < > > [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First
it
>> complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed
to be
>> in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
>> "BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
>> errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:
>>
>> /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
>> with i386:x86-64 output
>>
>> It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.
>>
>> Am I missing some updated files or something else?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Zack
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> > wrote:
>>
>>> Andre,
>>>
>>> download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
>>> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
>>> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] > >wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Andre
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Radiance-general mailing list
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Zack Rogers, P.E., LEED AP BD+C
>> Daylighting Innovations, LLC
>> 211 North Public Road, Suite 220
>> Lafayette, CO 80026
>> (303)946-2310
>>
>>
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Hi Andre,
Thanks for sending a report. I'm gald you were able to get it to work. It
shouldn't need those other things to build libBSDF.so, so I'll see if I can
remove the dependencies.

What did you do to fix the jni_md.h location problem? Did you copy it into
the correct place?

The WINDOW team want's to use this software (or a cleaned up versin of it)
to display BSDFs from WINDOW, so it will have the ability to load a file
passed as a command line argument eventually.

The best public documentation is available here (starting at slide 18):


but that's not much to go on.

I can also offer a few images of the tensor tree angle bsdf basis to help
understand how the shirly-chiu mapping works with the hilbert curve:
http://gaia.lbl.gov/people/andy/public/tensortree/

Andy

···

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Andrew,

I missed the first versions and the links are no longer available. I
downloaded the last version you provided ( 1.3a_ubuntu.zip) and it seems
some source files from the common radiance source folder are missing for
succesfull compilation :
cone.c cone.h face.c face.h free_os.c image.c instance.c
instance.h loadvars.c mesh.c mesh.h modobject.c otypes.c
otypes.h readmesh.c readobj.c readoct.c sceneio.c tmapluv.c
tmaptiff.c tmaptiff.h
(i copied them from the radiance-HEAD source available on
radiance-online.org)

Then there is a java issue
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/include/jni.h:45:20: fatal error: jni_md.h: No
such file or directory
this error comes from the fact that the file is located in the
include/linux rep. (
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-hdfs-dev/201205.mbox/<117050669.38033.1336464885155.JavaMail.tomcat@hel.zones.apache.org>
)

And now it works!!

Thanks! You just provided me with a great tool that will be quite usefull.
It would be even more if i can directly load a bsdf.xml file from the
comand line (or by an other way). Ist that possible??

I see this ubuntu version includes tensor trees. That is great! I have
been reading a bit about tensor trees and would like to use them to create
bsdf from the simulation of complex fenestration systems. I looked at the
code in the genbsdf routine that creates the tensor tree but i am realy not
familiar with perl... then i found the bsdf_t files in the common dir of
radiance. Is there any specific documentation about this, or an example i
could start from to create and store tensor tree bsdfs?? Idealy i would
like to create a C++ object to do that... Any help or advice would be
greatly apriciated.

Kind Regards.

Andre

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:21:10 -0600
From: Zack Rogers <[email protected]>
To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] BSDFviewer
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Hi Andy,

I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First it
complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed to
be
in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
"BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output

It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.

Am I missing some updated files or something else?

Thanks!
Zack

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Andre,
>
> download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>
> Thanks!
> Andy
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] >> >wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Andre
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Radiance-general mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
>>
>>
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From: Andrew McNeil <[email protected]>
To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] BSDFviewer
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Hi Zack,
Sorry, the BSDFViewer folder should have been in the tar file. Using an
old one won't work.

here's a link to a new tar file which includes the missing directory:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.tar

Andy

PS - Still working on answering all the questions in your previous
email...

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Zack Rogers < >> [email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Andy,
>
> I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First
it
> complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed
to be
> in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
> "BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
> errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:
>
> /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
> with i386:x86-64 output
>
> It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.
>
> Am I missing some updated files or something else?
>
> Thanks!
> Zack
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> >> wrote:
>
>> Andre,
>>
>> download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
>> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
>> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] >> >wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Andre
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Radiance-general mailing list
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
>
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> Daylighting Innovations, LLC
> 211 North Public Road, Suite 220
> Lafayette, CO 80026
> (303)946-2310
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:25:36 -0700
From: Andrew McNeil <[email protected]>
To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] BSDFviewer
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[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Sorry new link, zip not tar:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.zip

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Zack,
> Sorry, the BSDFViewer folder should have been in the tar file. Using an
> old one won't work.
>
> here's a link to a new tar file which includes the missing directory:
> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.tar
>
> Andy
>
> PS - Still working on answering all the questions in your previous
email...
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Zack Rogers < >> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First
it
>> complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed
to be
>> in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
>> "BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
>> errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:
>>
>> /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
>> with i386:x86-64 output
>>
>> It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.
>>
>> Am I missing some updated files or something else?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Zack
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> >> wrote:
>>
>>> Andre,
>>>
>>> download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
>>> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
>>> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] >> >wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Andre
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Radiance-general mailing list
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Zack Rogers, P.E., LEED AP BD+C
>> Daylighting Innovations, LLC
>> 211 North Public Road, Suite 220
>> Lafayette, CO 80026
>> (303)946-2310
>>
>>
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Here's a new zip file with all the common src files:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3b_ubuntu.zip

BSDFViewer doesn't need all of them, but it's easier to include it all than
it is to figure out which ones aren't necessary and edit the Rmakefile...

Andy

···

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Andre,
Thanks for sending a report. I'm gald you were able to get it to work.
It shouldn't need those other things to build libBSDF.so, so I'll see if I
can remove the dependencies.

What did you do to fix the jni_md.h location problem? Did you copy it
into the correct place?

The WINDOW team want's to use this software (or a cleaned up versin of it)
to display BSDFs from WINDOW, so it will have the ability to load a file
passed as a command line argument eventually.

The best public documentation is available here (starting at slide 18):

http://www.radiance-online.org/community/workshops/2011-berkeley-ca/presentations/day1/GW3_Multires_BSDF.pdf
but that's not much to go on.

I can also offer a few images of the tensor tree angle bsdf basis to help
understand how the shirly-chiu mapping works with the hilbert curve:
http://gaia.lbl.gov/people/andy/public/tensortree/

Andy

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected]>wrote:

Dear Andrew,

I missed the first versions and the links are no longer available. I
downloaded the last version you provided ( 1.3a_ubuntu.zip) and it seems
some source files from the common radiance source folder are missing for
succesfull compilation :
cone.c cone.h face.c face.h free_os.c image.c instance.c
instance.h loadvars.c mesh.c mesh.h modobject.c otypes.c
otypes.h readmesh.c readobj.c readoct.c sceneio.c tmapluv.c
tmaptiff.c tmaptiff.h
(i copied them from the radiance-HEAD source available on
radiance-online.org)

Then there is a java issue
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/include/jni.h:45:20: fatal error: jni_md.h: No
such file or directory
this error comes from the fact that the file is located in the
include/linux rep. (
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-hdfs-dev/201205.mbox/<117050669.38033.1336464885155.JavaMail.tomcat@hel.zones.apache.org>
)

And now it works!!

Thanks! You just provided me with a great tool that will be quite
usefull. It would be even more if i can directly load a bsdf.xml file from
the comand line (or by an other way). Ist that possible??

I see this ubuntu version includes tensor trees. That is great! I have
been reading a bit about tensor trees and would like to use them to create
bsdf from the simulation of complex fenestration systems. I looked at the
code in the genbsdf routine that creates the tensor tree but i am realy not
familiar with perl... then i found the bsdf_t files in the common dir of
radiance. Is there any specific documentation about this, or an example i
could start from to create and store tensor tree bsdfs?? Idealy i would
like to create a C++ object to do that... Any help or advice would be
greatly apriciated.

Kind Regards.

Andre

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:21:10 -0600
From: Zack Rogers <[email protected]>
To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] BSDFviewer
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CAAP856z+OiEJoNODb0HCwzNU2FtRvu2yWjjS3bCGO96-Pd_65w@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Andy,

I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First it
complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed to
be
in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
"BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:

/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output

It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.

Am I missing some updated files or something else?

Thanks!
Zack

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Andre,
>
> download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>
> Thanks!
> Andy
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] >>> >wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Andre
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Radiance-general mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
>>
>>
>
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Hi Zack,
Sorry, the BSDFViewer folder should have been in the tar file. Using an
old one won't work.

here's a link to a new tar file which includes the missing directory:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.tar

Andy

PS - Still working on answering all the questions in your previous
email...

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Zack Rogers < >>> [email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Andy,
>
> I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First
it
> complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed
to be
> in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
> "BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
> errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:
>
> /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
> with i386:x86-64 output
>
> It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.
>
> Am I missing some updated files or something else?
>
> Thanks!
> Zack
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> >>> wrote:
>
>> Andre,
>>
>> download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
>> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
>> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] >>> >wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Andre
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Radiance-general mailing list
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
>
> --
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> Daylighting Innovations, LLC
> 211 North Public Road, Suite 220
> Lafayette, CO 80026
> (303)946-2310
>
>
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From: Andrew McNeil <[email protected]>
To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
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Sorry new link, zip not tar:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.zip

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Zack,
> Sorry, the BSDFViewer folder should have been in the tar file. Using
an
> old one won't work.
>
> here's a link to a new tar file which includes the missing directory:
> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.tar
>
> Andy
>
> PS - Still working on answering all the questions in your previous
email...
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Zack Rogers < >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors.
First it
>> complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed
to be
>> in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
>> "BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
>> errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:
>>
>> /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
>> with i386:x86-64 output
>>
>> It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.
>>
>> Am I missing some updated files or something else?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Zack
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> >>> wrote:
>>
>>> Andre,
>>>
>>> download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
>>> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
>>> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] >>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Andre
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
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>>>>
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Hi Andy,

thanks for the update and the various info on tensor trees.

I m looking forward for a version with command line loader for the viewer.
keep us posted!

Refarding the jni_md.hlocation, yes i just copied it the the parent folder.
This is probably not the best solution, a link would be better or even
better add the right folder to the include path in the makefile..

Ragards,
Andre

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Here's a new zip file with all the common src files:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3b_ubuntu.zip

BSDFViewer doesn't need all of them, but it's easier to include it all than
it is to figure out which ones aren't necessary and edit the Rmakefile...

Andy

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Andre,
> Thanks for sending a report. I'm gald you were able to get it to work.
> It shouldn't need those other things to build libBSDF.so, so I'll see
if I
> can remove the dependencies.
>
> What did you do to fix the jni_md.h location problem? Did you copy it
> into the correct place?
>
> The WINDOW team want's to use this software (or a cleaned up versin of
it)
> to display BSDFs from WINDOW, so it will have the ability to load a file
> passed as a command line argument eventually.
>
> The best public documentation is available here (starting at slide 18):
>
>
http://www.radiance-online.org/community/workshops/2011-berkeley-ca/presentations/day1/GW3_Multires_BSDF.pdf
> but that's not much to go on.
>
> I can also offer a few images of the tensor tree angle bsdf basis to help
> understand how the shirly-chiu mapping works with the hilbert curve:
> http://gaia.lbl.gov/people/andy/public/tensortree/
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] > >wrote:
>
>> Dear Andrew,
>>
>> I missed the first versions and the links are no longer available. I
>> downloaded the last version you provided ( 1.3a_ubuntu.zip) and it seems
>> some source files from the common radiance source folder are missing for
>> succesfull compilation :
>> cone.c cone.h face.c face.h free_os.c image.c instance.c
>> instance.h loadvars.c mesh.c mesh.h modobject.c otypes.c
>> otypes.h readmesh.c readobj.c readoct.c sceneio.c tmapluv.c
>> tmaptiff.c tmaptiff.h
>> (i copied them from the radiance-HEAD source available on
>> radiance-online.org)
>>
>> Then there is a java issue
>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/include/jni.h:45:20: fatal error: jni_md.h:
No
>> such file or directory
>> this error comes from the fact that the file is located in the
>> include/linux rep. (
>>
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-hdfs-dev/201205.mbox/<117050669.38033.1336464885155.JavaMail.tomcat@hel.zones.apache.org>
>> )
>>
>> And now it works!!
>>
>> Thanks! You just provided me with a great tool that will be quite
>> usefull. It would be even more if i can directly load a bsdf.xml file
from
>> the comand line (or by an other way). Ist that possible??
>>
>> I see this ubuntu version includes tensor trees. That is great! I have
>> been reading a bit about tensor trees and would like to use them to
create
>> bsdf from the simulation of complex fenestration systems. I looked at
the
>> code in the genbsdf routine that creates the tensor tree but i am realy
not
>> familiar with perl... then i found the bsdf_t files in the common dir of
>> radiance. Is there any specific documentation about this, or an example
i
>> could start from to create and store tensor tree bsdfs?? Idealy i would
>> like to create a C++ object to do that... Any help or advice would be
>> greatly apriciated.
>>
>> Kind Regards.
>>
>> Andre
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:26 AM, < > >> [email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:21:10 -0600
>>> From: Zack Rogers <[email protected]>
>>> To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Radiance-general] BSDFviewer
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>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>>
>>> I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors. First
it
>>> complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed
to
>>> be
>>> in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
>>> "BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
>>> errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:
>>>
>>> /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is incompatible
>>> with
>>> i386:x86-64 output
>>>
>>> It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.
>>>
>>> Am I missing some updated files or something else?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Zack
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>
>>> > Andre,
>>> >
>>> > download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
>>> > unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
>>> > Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > Andy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] > >>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi there,
>>> >>
>>> >> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kind regards,
>>> >> Andre
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>> >> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
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>>> >>
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>>>
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>>> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:22:54 -0700
>>> From: Andrew McNeil <[email protected]>
>>> To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
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>>>
>>> Hi Zack,
>>> Sorry, the BSDFViewer folder should have been in the tar file. Using
an
>>> old one won't work.
>>>
>>> here's a link to a new tar file which includes the missing directory:
>>> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.tar
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> PS - Still working on answering all the questions in your previous
>>> email...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Zack Rogers < > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Andy,
>>> >
>>> > I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors.
First
>>> it
>>> > complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this supposed
>>> to be
>>> > in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
>>> > "BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I get
>>> > errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:
>>> >
>>> > /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is
incompatible
>>> > with i386:x86-64 output
>>> >
>>> > It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.
>>> >
>>> > Am I missing some updated files or something else?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > Zack
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> > >>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Andre,
>>> >>
>>> >> download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
>>> >> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
>>> >> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks!
>>> >> Andy
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro <[email protected] > >>> >wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi there,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Kind regards,
>>> >>> Andre
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Radiance-general mailing list
>>> >>> [email protected]
>>> >>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> > Daylighting Innovations, LLC
>>> > 211 North Public Road, Suite 220
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>>> > (303)946-2310
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:25:36 -0700
>>> From: Andrew McNeil <[email protected]>
>>> To: Radiance general discussion <[email protected]>
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>>> Sorry new link, zip not tar:
>>> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.zip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Zack,
>>> > Sorry, the BSDFViewer folder should have been in the tar file. Using
>>> an
>>> > old one won't work.
>>> >
>>> > here's a link to a new tar file which includes the missing directory:
>>> >
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3a_ubuntu.tar
>>> >
>>> > Andy
>>> >
>>> > PS - Still working on answering all the questions in your previous
>>> email...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Zack Rogers < > >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Andy,
>>> >>
>>> >> I just tried installing this on Ubuntu and got a couple errors.
>>> First it
>>> >> complained of not having a "BSDFViewer" directory. Was this
supposed
>>> to be
>>> >> in this .tar file? So, I copied this same directory that was in a
>>> >> "BSDFViewer1.2_ubuntu" package I got from you and it runs until I
get
>>> >> errors like this for each file in BSDFViewer directory:
>>> >>
>>> >> /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file 'xxxxx.o' is
incompatible
>>> >> with i386:x86-64 output
>>> >>
>>> >> It also complains about not finding a "libBSDF.so" file.
>>> >>
>>> >> Am I missing some updated files or something else?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks!
>>> >> Zack
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Andrew McNeil <[email protected]> > >>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Andre,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> download:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16523492/BSDFViewer1.3_ubuntu.tar
>>> >>> unpack and run: sudo ./install.sh
>>> >>> Tell me how it goes, send any errors or problems.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks!
>>> >>> Andy
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Andre Kostro < > [email protected] > >>> >wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Hi there,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I would be very interested in testing the BSDFviewer for linux.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Kind regards,
>>> >>>> Andre
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> >>>> [email protected]
>>> >>>> http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general
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>>> >>>
>>> >>
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*BSDFviewer*
I've (finally) posted a tarball containing BSDFviewer for linux:
http://www.radiance-online.org/download-install/bsdf-viewer

simply unpack the tar, run sudo ./install.sh and it hopefully works, at
least on ubuntu.

Send bugs and errors to me and I'll try to trouble shoot them.

Best,
Andy

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Hi @Andrew_McNeil2 @Andrew_McNeil

Do you have any ideas if anyone is looking into making the TT version work on windows?
I was curious to give this thing a shot in python for the tensor tree support on windows. In that case I would like to sneak into your code or whatever underlaying class to subdivide the sphere in the correct parts.

As an alternative it could of course be nice to host as a web application (the host would be able to see all peoples BSDFs as reward!!)

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There is ongoing discussion about making a BSDF viewer that works on the web, and my guess is that it will happen at some point.

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Mostapha shared a prototype of a web version almost two years ago. He plans to work on it again come september when his other deadlines are past. I’ve also look at and made a start at new versions with javascript in processing, and python using a various gui libraries, but never gotten very far due to time constraints. It’s usually more effort than people think at first because BSDFs, particularly tensor tree BSDFs are gnarly.

Perhaps we should start a true collaborative, open source effort for a new BSDF viewer. If you want to get started with github or something I’d be willing to contribute. The existing BSDF viewer code is in the download, though I’m not sure how permissive the license (from LBNL).

Andy

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