Modeling the real world for lighting analysis.

haha, I know things are not free.

So, basically using grey diffusing materials with relatively correct
reflectivity would be great for achieving good numbers?

THANKS FOR THE ANSWER

German

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2013/4/29 Guglielmetti, Robert <[email protected]>

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Hi German,

Yeah, modeling materials can be tricky, particularly if you want accuracy.
Life is not always fair, you get what you pay for, and there's also no such
thing as a free lunch, either. =)

For me, doing relative studies of architectural scenes, it's always made
sense to keep things simple which does mean keeping color out of the
equation (both for materials and light sources), and using generally
diffuse materials (which is really the majority of architectural materials
that cover broad expanses of interior spaces). When specularity is a
critical component of a surface, such as in light redirecting materials, I
resort to BSDFs or other means of describing the light scattering
(photometric distribution file resulting from light forwards ray tracing
exercise, usually).

Some amazing things can be done with textures and patterns to enhance the
realism of a rendering, but I'm generally more interested in numbers so I
have not played with those too much. I can tell you that you are
automatically introducing more variables to the physical definition of the
surface to which you are applying those textures and patterns, so tread
carefully.

Material definition has been discussed at length on this list, so I'd
search the archives. Also check out Carsten Bauer's amazing textures and
patterns from his Workshop talk in 2002 (linked on the Radiance-online.org
website) for inspiration as to what's possible with textures, patterns, and
the Radiance functional language -- sick stuff!

-Rob

Rob Guglielmetti
NREL Commercial Buildings Research Group
Golden, CO 80401
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
*From: *Germán Molina Larrain [[email protected]]
*Sent: *Friday, April 26, 2013 09:46 AM Mountain Standard Time
*To: *Radiance general discussion
*Subject: *[Radiance-general] Modeling the real world for lighting
analysis.

Dear List,

I am a starter on the use of Radiance, and I have some doubts about the
modeling (of the real world, as it always is, in engineering at least). I
have heard that material reflectivity is a very important parameter that.
How important are:

- Color (I am pretty sure I read something in this list about grey-world
simulations... I think it was Rob).
- Textures
- Specularities
- Patterns
etc.

My concern is that defining materials is actually not a very easy task, so
I just wanted to know what are the most important things here.

THANKS VERY MUCH!

German

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ok! thanks! how do you do it on Open Studio anyway???

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2013/4/29 Guglielmetti, Robert <[email protected]>

Well, it’s a good start, and it keeps things simpler, anyway. ****

** **

- Rob****

** **

*From:* Germán Molina Larrain [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 2:28 PM
*To:* Radiance general discussion
*Subject:* Re: [Radiance-general] Modeling the real world for lighting
analysis.****

** **

haha, I know things are not free.****

** **

So, basically using grey diffusing materials with relatively correct
reflectivity would be great for achieving good numbers?****

** **

THANKS FOR THE ANSWER****

** **

German****

** **

2013/4/29 Guglielmetti, Robert <[email protected]>****

Hi German,

Yeah, modeling materials can be tricky, particularly if you want accuracy.
Life is not always fair, you get what you pay for, and there's also no such
thing as a free lunch, either. =)

For me, doing relative studies of architectural scenes, it's always made
sense to keep things simple which does mean keeping color out of the
equation (both for materials and light sources), and using generally
diffuse materials (which is really the majority of architectural materials
that cover broad expanses of interior spaces). When specularity is a
critical component of a surface, such as in light redirecting materials, I
resort to BSDFs or other means of describing the light scattering
(photometric distribution file resulting from light forwards ray tracing
exercise, usually).

Some amazing things can be done with textures and patterns to enhance the
realism of a rendering, but I'm generally more interested in numbers so I
have not played with those too much. I can tell you that you are
automatically introducing more variables to the physical definition of the
surface to which you are applying those textures and patterns, so tread
carefully.

Material definition has been discussed at length on this list, so I'd
search the archives. Also check out Carsten Bauer's amazing textures and
patterns from his Workshop talk in 2002 (linked on the Radiance-online.org
website) for inspiration as to what's possible with textures, patterns, and
the Radiance functional language -- sick stuff!

-Rob

Rob Guglielmetti
NREL Commercial Buildings Research Group
Golden, CO 80401
[email protected]****

-----Original Message-----
*From: *Germán Molina Larrain [[email protected]]
*Sent: *Friday, April 26, 2013 09:46 AM Mountain Standard Time
*To: *Radiance general discussion
*Subject: *[Radiance-general] Modeling the real world for lighting
analysis.****

Dear List, ****

** **

I am a starter on the use of Radiance, and I have some doubts about the
modeling (of the real world, as it always is, in engineering at least). I
have heard that material reflectivity is a very important parameter that.
How important are:****

** **

- Color (I am pretty sure I read something in this list about grey-world
simulations... I think it was Rob).****

- Textures****

- Specularities****

- Patterns****

etc.****

** **

My concern is that defining materials is actually not a very easy task, so
I just wanted to know what are the most important things here.****

** **

THANKS VERY MUCH!****

** **

German****

_______________________________________________
Radiance-general mailing list
[email protected]
http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general****

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