Hi / feedback of code

I have no problems with setting up a wiki, my only concern is that if it
isn't hosted with the radiance site it won't achieve official status.
If you think otherwise, let me know & I'll go ahead & start setting
up the wiki.

mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Rob Guglielmetti
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:48 PM
To: code development
Subject: Re: [Radiance-dev] Hi / feedback of code

> More on documentation. It seems to me that it would be
nice for new
> users to have a place to help them get started...
>
> Sounds like a bit of work, but hear me out. On another
page, we would
> encourage experienced users to write about what helped them
the most
> getting started with Radiance. They would answer the same survey
> questions above, only at the end of it they would be directed to

> a page
> with questions asked by the newbies, and be permitted to
edit or fill
> in the answers. Sort of a self-constructing FAQ with
personalization
> built in.

This is what Wikis are all about. Have a look at the
newly-created Mac OS X Server FAQ:
http://www.macos-x-server.com/wiki/Main_Page

The admin created the FAQ, but anyone can click the edit link
on each topic and flesh out the answers to the FAQs, and add
more. It's a good example of a "new" Wiki, one that is just
starting to evolve.

There would also be areas for essays on topics of general
> interest, such as "How I Got Started with Radiance" and
"Some Bonehead
> Mistakes to Avoid" and "Radiance Made No Sense To Me Until
I (fill in
> the blank)".

This is an excellent idea. This is something I've always
wanted to do on my own site, but *still* haven't gotten
around to doing. Since I'm proposing to make a similar
presentation at the Montreal Workshop this summer, I can
pretty much guarantee that I would have some content for this
section in the future, and would love to contribute more. I
vividly recall my staggered start(s) with Radiance, and know
loads of people who were simply scared off by the
unix/shell/no-gui aspects of Radiance and never gave it a
fair shake. Something like you propose just may help a few
more people along before giving up and using AGI or Lumen
Micro (I'm thinking of the architectural lighting design
community first and foremost, since that's the aspect I deal with).

> The trouble with a general FAQ for Radiance is that there
are too many
> aspects to it, too many different types of users, and too
many answers
> that will only serve to confuse people if they haven't been
properly
> primed. On the plus side, we have some amazing users who are good
> writers and storytellers and are a generally helpful sort.
I'm sure
> if we built it, they would come.

Right on, brother, I'm in. Somehow, some way, I'd like to
contribute something.

- Rob Guglielmetti
www.rumblestrip.org

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I have no problems with setting up a wiki, my only concern is that if it isn't hosted with the radiance site it won't achieve official status. If you think otherwise, let me know & I'll go ahead & start setting
up the wiki.

I suggest MediaWiki:

www.mediawiki.org

It runs wikipedia.org, looks good by default and is the best Wiki I've dealt with...

Chris

Rob Guglielmetti wrote:

Right on, brother, I'm in. Somehow, some way, I'd like to contribute

something.

gee, mates. I'm smashed by the wave of energy and power to write tutorials, examples and doc.

So far I've quickly looked at http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OtherWikis , and had a 15 minute browse thru http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ <http://moin.sourceforge.net/>. I'm not so much fixed on Moin as it is the north German equivalent to /G'day/ or /Whats'up/ , but I found that my favorite no-nonsense mail agent Exim uses it for their site http://www.exim.org/eximwiki/ . And it's written in a reasonable language (Python or PHP much preferred over Perl).

I'm on a fairly tight schedule to get a project finished until end of January. So, if you guys can hold on, chances are good that it works productive on radiance-online in early Feb 2005. Backup etc. implemented as usual (thanks to Fraunhofer ISE IT dep). I know it's available as a Debian package, I know installing *looks* easy, but I'd better not open this can until then.

-Peter

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I've just setup a mediawiki at http://www.radiance-wiki.org.

I'm going to start adding content to that (come tomorrow :P) -
we can either continue with that or transfer the content to your
wiki up once it's up and running.

Start your engines folks & get writing!

mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Peter Apian-Bennewitz
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:36 PM
To: [email protected]; code development
Subject: Re: [Radiance-dev] Hi / feedback of code

Rob Guglielmetti wrote:

> Right on, brother, I'm in. Somehow, some way, I'd like to contribute
>
>something.
>
>
gee, mates. I'm smashed by the wave of energy and power to
write tutorials, examples and doc.

So far I've quickly looked at
http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OtherWikis , and had a
15 minute browse thru http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/
<http://moin.sourceforge.net/>. I'm not so much fixed on Moin
as it is the north German equivalent to /G'day/ or /Whats'up/
, but I found that my favorite no-nonsense mail agent Exim
uses it for their site http://www.exim.org/eximwiki/ . And
it's written in a reasonable language (Python or PHP much
preferred over Perl).

I'm on a fairly tight schedule to get a project finished
until end of January. So, if you guys can hold on, chances
are good that it works productive on radiance-online in early
Feb 2005. Backup etc. implemented as usual (thanks to
Fraunhofer ISE IT dep). I know it's available as a Debian
package, I know installing *looks* easy, but I'd better not
open this can until then.

-Peter

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web page to check digital email signature]

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Michael Kruger wrote:

I've just setup a mediawiki at http://www.radiance-wiki.org.

I'm going to start adding content to that (come tomorrow :P) - we can either continue with that or transfer the content to your wiki up once it's up and running.

Start your engines folks & get writing!

mike

well, good. Reminds me a bit how radiance-online was setup ...
At least it funnels that bursts of energy immediately.
-'Robes'pierre

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