Grynberg's validation report?

R_Fritz2 · June 10, 2009, 5:14pm

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Grynberg's Radiance Validation report (LBID 1575)? I'd like to cite it and I can't seem to find it online anywhere.

Randolph

Greg_Ward1 · June 10, 2009, 5:54pm

Hi Randolph,

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies exist. I have one in my closet.

-Greg

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From: R Fritz <rfritz@u.washington.edu>
Date: June 10, 2009 10:14:02 AM PDT

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Grynberg's Radiance Validation report (LBID 1575)? I'd like to cite it and I can't seem to find it online anywhere.

Randolph

R_Fritz2 · June 10, 2009, 6:49pm

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies exist. I have one in my closet.

Hee. Thanks for the quick reply. I'll drop a note to LBL's archivists; there may be a copy somewhere in their stacks that they can copy or even lend.

Randolph

Stephen_Selkowitz · June 11, 2009, 12:40am

I'm checking to see if we have a copy on file-otherwise we can scan Greg's and make it available
Steve

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On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:49 AM, R Fritz wrote:

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies exist. I have one in my closet.

Hee. Thanks for the quick reply. I'll drop a note to LBL's archivists; there may be a copy somewhere in their stacks that they can copy or even lend.

Randolph

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Victor_Li · June 11, 2009, 1:23am

If anyone gets the electronic copy, would you send it to me?

Thank you very much!

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2009/6/11 Stephen Selkowitz <seselkowitz@lbl.gov>

I'm checking to see if we have a copy on file-otherwise we can scan Greg's
and make it available
Steve

On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:49 AM, R Fritz wrote:

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies exist. I

have one in my closet.

Hee. Thanks for the quick reply. I'll drop a note to LBL's archivists;
there may be a copy somewhere in their stacks that they can copy or even
lend.

Randolph

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R_Fritz2 · June 11, 2009, 4:50am

Great, thanks!

Randolph

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On Jun 10, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Stephen Selkowitz wrote:

I'm checking to see if we have a copy on file-otherwise we can scan Greg's and make it available
Steve

On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:49 AM, R Fritz wrote:

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies exist. I have one in my closet.

Hee. Thanks for the quick reply. I'll drop a note to LBL's archivists; there may be a copy somewhere in their stacks that they can copy or even lend.

Randolph

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Berkeley, CA 94720 http://BTECH.lbl.gov/
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R_Fritz2 · February 11, 2010, 11:46pm

Very, very, very belated followup on this: I'm tying up loose ends in my thesis, and this is the last paper I want to cite I haven't actually seen. The history is thus:

I wrote:

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Grynberg's Radiance Validation
report (LBID 1575)? I'd like to cite it and I can't seem to find it
online anywhere.

Greg replied:

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies
exist. I have one in my closet.

Then Steven Selkowitz:

I'm checking to see if we have a copy on file-otherwise we can scan
Greg's and make it available

I did follow up with LBL's archivists, and they couldn't find it.

Did it by any chance turn up?

Randolph

Greg_Ward · February 12, 2010, 12:00am

I found it in my closet, and LBNL did indeed scan the report. I don't know how to get it from them, unfortunately. I haven't retrieved my copy back yet, either.

Cheers,
-Greg

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From: R Fritz <rfritz@u.washington.edu>
Date: February 11, 2010 3:46:46 PM PST

Very, very, very belated followup on this: I'm tying up loose ends in my thesis, and this is the last paper I want to cite I haven't actually seen. The history is thus:

I wrote:

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Grynberg's Radiance Validation
report (LBID 1575)? I'd like to cite it and I can't seem to find it
online anywhere.

Greg replied:

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies
exist. I have one in my closet.

Then Steven Selkowitz:

I'm checking to see if we have a copy on file-otherwise we can scan
Greg's and make it available

I did follow up with LBL's archivists, and they couldn't find it.

Did it by any chance turn up?

Randolph

R_Fritz2 · February 12, 2010, 12:55am

Thank you. I'll follow up directly with Steve.

Randolph

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On 2010-02-11 16:00:44 -0800, Greg Ward said:

I found it in my closet, and LBNL did indeed scan the report. I don't know how to get it from them, unfortunately. I haven't retrieved my copy back yet, either.

Cheers,
-Greg

From: R Fritz <rfritz@u.washington.edu>
Date: February 11, 2010 3:46:46 PM PST

Very, very, very belated followup on this: I'm tying up loose ends > in my thesis, and this is the last paper I want to cite I haven't > actually seen. The history is thus:

I wrote:

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Grynberg's Radiance Validation
report (LBID 1575)? I'd like to cite it and I can't seem to find it
online anywhere.

Greg replied:

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies
exist. I have one in my closet.

Then Steven Selkowitz:

I'm checking to see if we have a copy on file-otherwise we can scan
Greg's and make it available

I did follow up with LBL's archivists, and they couldn't find it.

Did it by any chance turn up?

Randolph

Stephen_Selkowitz · February 12, 2010, 6:55am

We scanned Gregs copy and the scan was posted on our pub site last year; you can download at http://btech.lbl.gov/pubs
then search grynberg

we have all of our pubs posted here- almost back to illustrated manuscripts or at least some done on typewriters
note you can search abstracts, titles, and/or authors
for example a search for the word "daylight" in abstracts will return 156 documents you can review and download.

Steve

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Head, Building Technologies Department (510) 486-5064
Bldg.90-3111 fax (510) 486-4089
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory SESelkowitz@lbl.gov
Berkeley, CA 94720 http://BTECH.lbl.gov/
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On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:55 PM, R Fritz wrote:

Thank you. I'll follow up directly with Steve.

Randolph

On 2010-02-11 16:00:44 -0800, Greg Ward said:

I found it in my closet, and LBNL did indeed scan the report. I don't know how to get it from them, unfortunately. I haven't retrieved my copy back yet, either.
Cheers,
-Greg

From: R Fritz <rfritz@u.washington.edu>
Date: February 11, 2010 3:46:46 PM PST
Very, very, very belated followup on this: I'm tying up loose ends > in my thesis, and this is the last paper I want to cite I haven't > actually seen. The history is thus:
I wrote:

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Grynberg's Radiance Validation
report (LBID 1575)? I'd like to cite it and I can't seem to find it
online anywhere.

Greg replied:

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies
exist. I have one in my closet.

Then Steven Selkowitz:

I'm checking to see if we have a copy on file-otherwise we can scan
Greg's and make it available

I did follow up with LBL's archivists, and they couldn't find it.
Did it by any chance turn up?
Randolph

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R_Fritz2 · February 12, 2010, 9:04pm

Thank you!

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On 2010-02-11 22:55:38 -0800, Stephen Selkowitz said:

We scanned Gregs copy and the scan was posted on our pub site last year; you can download at http://btech.lbl.gov/pubs
then search grynberg

we have all of our pubs posted here- almost back to illustrated manuscripts or at least some done on typewriters
note you can search abstracts, titles, and/or authors
for example a search for the word "daylight" in abstracts will return 156 documents you can review and download.

Steve

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Stephen Selkowitz
Head, Building Technologies Department (510) 486-5064
Bldg.90-3111 fax (510) 486-4089
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory SESelkowitz@lbl.gov
Berkeley, CA 94720 http://BTECH.lbl.gov/
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On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:55 PM, R Fritz wrote:

Thank you. I'll follow up directly with Steve.

Randolph

On 2010-02-11 16:00:44 -0800, Greg Ward said:

I found it in my closet, and LBNL did indeed scan the report. I >> don't know how to get it from them, unfortunately. I haven't >> retrieved my copy back yet, either.
Cheers,
-Greg

From: R Fritz <rfritz@u.washington.edu>
Date: February 11, 2010 3:46:46 PM PST
Very, very, very belated followup on this: I'm tying up loose ends >>> > in my thesis, and this is the last paper I want to cite I >>> haven't > actually seen. The history is thus:
I wrote:

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Grynberg's Radiance >>>> Validation
report (LBID 1575)? I'd like to cite it and I can't seem to find >>>> it
online anywhere.

Greg replied:

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies
exist. I have one in my closet.

Then Steven Selkowitz:

I'm checking to see if we have a copy on file-otherwise we can scan
Greg's and make it available

I did follow up with LBL's archivists, and they couldn't find it.
Did it by any chance turn up?
Randolph

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Rob_Guglielmetti2 · February 12, 2010, 9:11pm

Yes, Thank you Steve for pointing us at this and Grynberg's other paper.
Some great stuff in here that I had not perviously seen!!

- Rob

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On Fri, February 12, 2010 2:04 pm, R Fritz wrote:

Thank you!

On 2010-02-11 22:55:38 -0800, Stephen Selkowitz said:

We scanned Gregs copy and the scan was posted on our pub site last
year; you can download at http://btech.lbl.gov/pubs
then search grynberg

we have all of our pubs posted here- almost back to illustrated
manuscripts or at least some done on typewriters
note you can search abstracts, titles, and/or authors
for example a search for the word "daylight" in abstracts will return
156 documents you can review and download.

Steve

**********************************************************************
Stephen Selkowitz
Head, Building Technologies Department (510) 486-5064
Bldg.90-3111
fax (510) 486-4089
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
SESelkowitz@lbl.gov
Berkeley, CA 94720
http://BTECH.lbl.gov/
**********************************************************************

On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:55 PM, R Fritz wrote:

Thank you. I'll follow up directly with Steve.

Randolph

On 2010-02-11 16:00:44 -0800, Greg Ward said:

I found it in my closet, and LBNL did indeed scan the report. I >>
don't know how to get it from them, unfortunately. I haven't >>
retrieved my copy back yet, either.
Cheers,
-Greg

From: R Fritz <rfritz@u.washington.edu>
Date: February 11, 2010 3:46:46 PM PST
Very, very, very belated followup on this: I'm tying up loose ends
>>>
> in my thesis, and this is the last paper I want to cite I >>>
haven't
> actually seen. The history is thus:
I wrote:

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Grynberg's Radiance >>>>
Validation
report (LBID 1575)? I'd like to cite it and I can't seem to find
>>>> it
online anywhere.

Greg replied:

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies
exist. I have one in my closet.

Then Steven Selkowitz:

I'm checking to see if we have a copy on file-otherwise we can scan
Greg's and make it available

I did follow up with LBL's archivists, and they couldn't find it.
Did it by any chance turn up?
Randolph

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R_Fritz2 · February 12, 2010, 9:54pm

Thanks. The lost document has been found, so I think I'm good.

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On 2010-02-11 17:37:12 -0800, Compagnon Raphaël said:

I have a copy of this report (written in French). If you want I can scan it for you. As I am now abroad I can do this next week only.

R_Fritz2 · February 12, 2010, 10:24pm

It's a really interesting report--good stuff on modeling, especially. Different from what I expected, but then that's why one reads the original paper. I wonder if an ME professor I know could help me build that reflectometer.

Randolph

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On 2010-02-12 13:11:49 -0800, Rob Guglielmetti said:

Yes, Thank you Steve for pointing us at this and Grynberg's other paper.
Some great stuff in here that I had not perviously seen!!

- Rob

On Fri, February 12, 2010 2:04 pm, R Fritz wrote:

Thank you!

On 2010-02-11 22:55:38 -0800, Stephen Selkowitz said:

We scanned Gregs copy and the scan was posted on our pub site last
year; you can download at http://btech.lbl.gov/pubs
then search grynberg

we have all of our pubs posted here- almost back to illustrated
manuscripts or at least some done on typewriters
note you can search abstracts, titles, and/or authors
for example a search for the word "daylight" in abstracts will return
156 documents you can review and download.

Steve

**********************************************************************
Stephen Selkowitz
Head, Building Technologies Department (510) 486-5064
Bldg.90-3111
fax (510) 486-4089
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
SESelkowitz@lbl.gov
Berkeley, CA 94720
http://BTECH.lbl.gov/
**********************************************************************

On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:55 PM, R Fritz wrote:

Thank you. I'll follow up directly with Steve.

Randolph

On 2010-02-11 16:00:44 -0800, Greg Ward said:

I found it in my closet, and LBNL did indeed scan the report. I >>
don't know how to get it from them, unfortunately. I haven't >>
retrieved my copy back yet, either.
Cheers,
-Greg

From: R Fritz <rfritz@u.washington.edu>
Date: February 11, 2010 3:46:46 PM PST
Very, very, very belated followup on this: I'm tying up loose ends

in my thesis, and this is the last paper I want to cite I >>>

haven't

actually seen. The history is thus:

I wrote:

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Grynberg's Radiance >>>>
Validation
report (LBID 1575)? I'd like to cite it and I can't seem to find

it

online anywhere.

Greg replied:

I don't think this report exists online, and only a few copies
exist. I have one in my closet.

Then Steven Selkowitz:

I'm checking to see if we have a copy on file-otherwise we can scan
Greg's and make it available

I did follow up with LBL's archivists, and they couldn't find it.
Did it by any chance turn up?
Randolph

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Rob_Guglielmetti2 · February 13, 2010, 3:49am

Let us know!!

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On Feb 12, 2010, at 3:24 PM, R Fritz wrote:

It's a really interesting report--good stuff on modeling, especially. Different from what I expected, but then that's why one reads the original paper. I wonder if an ME professor I know could help me build that reflectometer.

Greg_Ward · February 13, 2010, 4:53pm

Marilyne Anderson at MIT worked on building such a reflectometer, using an ellipsoid rather than a sphere. I don't know where that project stands at the moment.

-Greg

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From: Rob Guglielmetti <rpg@rumblestrip.org>
Date: February 12, 2010 7:49:19 PM PST

On Feb 12, 2010, at 3:24 PM, R Fritz wrote:

It's a really interesting report--good stuff on modeling, especially. Different from what I expected, but then that's why one reads the original paper. I wonder if an ME professor I know could help me build that reflectometer.

Let us know!!