Giving UnmetHours.com a Try

Greg_Ward · August 20, 2015, 5:24pm

Thanks for the prompt, Rob -- just signed myself up! Seems quite reasonable so far....

Since we have so few developers, I think we can keep those on the dev list for now.

Cheers,
-Greg

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From: "Guglielmetti, Robert" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Radiance-general] Giving UnmetHours.com a Try
Date: August 20, 2015 9:42:31 AM PDT

Greetings simulationists,

The very end of this week's International Radiance Workshop included an open discussion session, which spurred some excellent discussion about software tools, metrics, and support. This last topic (support) included all the usual talking points: information is scattered, and hard to find; the listserv is antiquated (tho there were people on both sides of this issue), etc...

The UnmetHours.com website was mentioned during this conversation, which has been successful as a "Stack Overflow for energy modelers" kind of resource. For those unfamiliar with Stack Overflow, it's simply a Q&A website for programmers, where people can ask and answer questions. Both the questions and answers can be up and down voted for relevance and quality, respectively. Users who ask good questions and give good answers receive "karma points" which unlock further functionality on the site and boost the self-esteem of the users, impressing their friends and peers. =) UH is basically the same thing, but with a focus on building simulation.

UnmetHours posts can accept software- and workflow-specific tags, allowing the content to self-organize and become searchable on these keyword tags. Images can be embedded in posts, as well as formatted code blocks. Users can comment, and offer answers, which can then be up or down voted; the idea being the community shapes the knowledge base. There are things I don't like about the site, versus the old-school listserv method. But the discussion yesterday focused on the problems of the new user, and offering greater visibility into the tremendous resource that is the radiance-online list archives (and those from the radsite list that preceded it). Matter of fact, I posted an announcement about UnmetHours on radiance-online last fall, but I can't find it now. So, there ya go.

In the end, the general consensus was to give UnmetHours a try, for Radiance support. There was no agreed-upon methodology for this, but the general idea is:

0. Post this announcement here, and then:
1. Encourage the community to post new Radiance questions on UnmetHours (and tag appropriately)
2. When answers already exist on radiance-online.org, post a brief answer on UH, cross-referencing the post or thread on radiance-online.org
This is as far as we got, frankly.

My biggest beef with the UH workflow is that the onus is on me to check the site for new content, whereas the listserv simply sends me the conversations in realtime. The rss feed for UH is not at all good for this, either. So this is a big ask in my opinion, but I'm willing to give it a go, and - significantly - Greg was, too. So how about it? I'm hereby encouraging this lot to head over to unmethours.com, and sugn up for a free account. Have a look around, and check out the help page (https://proxy.unmethours.com/help.html) for info on getting started posting and voting, and bookmark the site so you can check in frequently. Let's see where this goes.

One question I have for the group is do we want to follow suit with the radiance-dev list?

OK, bye, see you over there.(?)

- Rob

Axel_Jacobs2 · August 20, 2015, 6:17pm

Dear UMmers,

Just signed up to this, but failed to find any setting that would allow me to only follow certain tags such as 'Radiance' or 'Daylight'. Given that UM seems to be focussed on thermal stuff, this is probably going to create a lot of noise in my inbox.

Moreover, tag filtering only appears to allow for one option, but not something like 'Radiance OR Daylight'. Tag filtering is also not stored between sessions.

Anyone found a work-around for this?

Best

Axel

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On 20/08/15 18:24, Greg Ward wrote:

Thanks for the prompt, Rob -- just signed myself up! Seems quite reasonable so far....

Since we have so few developers, I think we can keep those on the dev list for now.

Cheers,
-Greg

From: "Guglielmetti, Robert" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Radiance-general] Giving UnmetHours.com a Try
Date: August 20, 2015 9:42:31 AM PDT

Greetings simulationists,

The very end of this week's International Radiance Workshop included an open discussion session, which spurred some excellent discussion about software tools, metrics, and support. This last topic (support) included all the usual talking points: information is scattered, and hard to find; the listserv is antiquated (tho there were people on both sides of this issue), etc...

The UnmetHours.com website was mentioned during this conversation, which has been successful as a "Stack Overflow for energy modelers" kind of resource. For those unfamiliar with Stack Overflow, it's simply a Q&A website for programmers, where people can ask and answer questions. Both the questions and answers can be up and down voted for relevance and quality, respectively. Users who ask good questions and give good answers receive "karma points" which unlock further functionality on the site and boost the self-esteem of the users, impressing their friends and peers. =) UH is basically the same thing, but with a focus on building simulation.

UnmetHours posts can accept software- and workflow-specific tags, allowing the content to self-organize and become searchable on these keyword tags. Images can be embedded in posts, as well as formatted code blocks. Users can comment, and offer answers, which can then be up or down voted; the idea being the community shapes the knowledge base. There are things I don't like about the site, versus the old-school listserv method. But the discussion yesterday focused on the problems of the new user, and offering greater visibility into the tremendous resource that is the radiance-online list archives (and those from the radsite list that preceded it). Matter of fact, I posted an announcement about UnmetHours on radiance-online last fall, but I can't find it now. So, there ya go.

In the end, the general consensus was to give UnmetHours a try, for Radiance support. There was no agreed-upon methodology for this, but the general idea is:

0. Post this announcement here, and then:
1. Encourage the community to post new Radiance questions on UnmetHours (and tag appropriately)
2. When answers already exist on radiance-online.org, post a brief answer on UH, cross-referencing the post or thread on radiance-online.org
This is as far as we got, frankly.

My biggest beef with the UH workflow is that the onus is on me to check the site for new content, whereas the listserv simply sends me the conversations in realtime. The rss feed for UH is not at all good for this, either. So this is a big ask in my opinion, but I'm willing to give it a go, and - significantly - Greg was, too. So how about it? I'm hereby encouraging this lot to head over to unmethours.com, and sugn up for a free account. Have a look around, and check out the help page (https://proxy.unmethours.com/help.html) for info on getting started posting and voting, and bookmark the site so you can check in frequently. Let's see where this goes.

One question I have for the group is do we want to follow suit with the radiance-dev list?

OK, bye, see you over there.(?)

- Rob

_______________________________________________
Radiance-general mailing list
[email protected]
http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general

Andrew_McNeil · August 21, 2015, 6:34am

First thing to do after registering at unmet hours is to check out this
question and Rob's response:

classic.

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Guglielmetti, Robert < [email protected]> wrote:

Greetings simulationists,

The very end of this week's International Radiance Workshop included an
open discussion session, which spurred some excellent discussion about
software tools, metrics, and support. This last topic (support) included
all the usual talking points: information is scattered, and hard to find;
the listserv is antiquated (tho there were people on both sides of this
issue), etc...

The UnmetHours.com website was mentioned during this conversation, which
has been successful as a "Stack Overflow for energy modelers" kind of
resource. For those unfamiliar with Stack Overflow, it's simply a Q&A
website for programmers, where people can ask and answer questions. Both
the questions and answers can be up and down voted for relevance and
quality, respectively. Users who ask good questions and give good answers
receive "karma points" which unlock further functionality on the site and
boost the self-esteem of the users, impressing their friends and peers. =)
UH is basically the same thing, but with a focus on building simulation.

UnmetHours posts can accept software- and workflow-specific tags, allowing
the content to self-organize and become searchable on these keyword tags.
Images can be embedded in posts, as well as formatted code blocks. Users
can comment, and offer answers, which can then be up or down voted; the
idea being the community shapes the knowledge base. There are things I
don't like about the site, versus the old-school listserv method. But the
discussion yesterday focused on the problems of the new user, and offering
greater visibility into the tremendous resource that is the radiance-online
list archives (and those from the radsite list that preceded it). Matter of
fact, I posted an announcement about UnmetHours on radiance-online last
fall, but I can't find it now. So, there ya go.

In the end, the general consensus was to give UnmetHours a try, for
Radiance support. There was no agreed-upon methodology for this, but the
general idea is:

0. Post this announcement here, and then:
1. Encourage the community to post new Radiance questions on UnmetHours
(and tag appropriately)
2. When answers already exist on radiance-online.org, post a brief answer
on UH, cross-referencing the post or thread on radiance-online.org
This is as far as we got, frankly.

My biggest beef with the UH workflow is that the onus is on me to check
the site for new content, whereas the listserv simply sends me the
conversations in realtime. The rss feed for UH is not at all good for this,
either. So this is a big ask in my opinion, but I'm willing to give it a
go, and - significantly - Greg was, too. So how about it? I'm hereby
encouraging this lot to head over to unmethours.com, and sugn up for a
free account. Have a look around, and check out the help page (
https://proxy.unmethours.com/help.html) for info on getting started
posting and voting, and bookmark the site so you can check in frequently.
Let's see where this goes.

One question I have for the group is do we want to follow suit with the
radiance-dev list?

OK, bye, see you over there.(?)

- Rob

_______________________________________________
Radiance-general mailing list
[email protected]
http://www.radiance-online.org/mailman/listinfo/radiance-general

Guglielmetti_Robert · August 20, 2015, 4:42pm

Greetings simulationists,

The very end of this week's International Radiance Workshop included an open discussion session, which spurred some excellent discussion about software tools, metrics, and support. This last topic (support) included all the usual talking points: information is scattered, and hard to find; the listserv is antiquated (tho there were people on both sides of this issue), etc...

The UnmetHours.com website was mentioned during this conversation, which has been successful as a "Stack Overflow for energy modelers" kind of resource. For those unfamiliar with Stack Overflow, it's simply a Q&A website for programmers, where people can ask and answer questions. Both the questions and answers can be up and down voted for relevance and quality, respectively. Users who ask good questions and give good answers receive "karma points" which unlock further functionality on the site and boost the self-esteem of the users, impressing their friends and peers. =) UH is basically the same thing, but with a focus on building simulation.

UnmetHours posts can accept software- and workflow-specific tags, allowing the content to self-organize and become searchable on these keyword tags. Images can be embedded in posts, as well as formatted code blocks. Users can comment, and offer answers, which can then be up or down voted; the idea being the community shapes the knowledge base. There are things I don't like about the site, versus the old-school listserv method. But the discussion yesterday focused on the problems of the new user, and offering greater visibility into the tremendous resource that is the radiance-online list archives (and those from the radsite list that preceded it). Matter of fact, I posted an announcement about UnmetHours on radiance-online last fall, but I can't find it now. So, there ya go.

In the end, the general consensus was to give UnmetHours a try, for Radiance support. There was no agreed-upon methodology for this, but the general idea is:

0. Post this announcement here, and then:
1. Encourage the community to post new Radiance questions on UnmetHours (and tag appropriately)
2. When answers already exist on radiance-online.org, post a brief answer on UH, cross-referencing the post or thread on radiance-online.org
This is as far as we got, frankly.

My biggest beef with the UH workflow is that the onus is on me to check the site for new content, whereas the listserv simply sends me the conversations in realtime. The rss feed for UH is not at all good for this, either. So this is a big ask in my opinion, but I'm willing to give it a go, and - significantly - Greg was, too. So how about it? I'm hereby encouraging this lot to head over to unmethours.com, and sugn up for a free account. Have a look around, and check out the help page (https://proxy.unmethours.com/help.html) for info on getting started posting and voting, and bookmark the site so you can check in frequently. Let's see where this goes.

One question I have for the group is do we want to follow suit with the radiance-dev list?

OK, bye, see you over there.(?)

- Rob