Gendaylit overcast sky underestimation issue

As part of a project I am comparing measured data from both Berkeley and
the Isle de la Reunion to simulated illuminances under the Perez sky model
in both Radiance and 3ds Max Design, however Gendaylit seems to be
producing incorrect sky descriptions for the overcast days in the dataset.
I am wondering if I am missing something critical.

Below is the command I am using to produce a sky description, for 10:30am
on a particularly overcast winter day in Berkeley, with the measured direct
radiation being 0.15W/m^2 and the measured diffuse being 155.13 W/m^2:

gendaylit 12 4 10.5 -W 0.15 155.13 -g 0.2 -a 37.88 -o -122.25 -m -120 >
new.sky

This produces a sky that when simulated (using rtrace, with the -I option,
and multiplying by 179) only gives a global horizontal illuminance of
~12lux, rather than the expected ~19,000lux.

Using the -O option with a value of 2 produces a significantly brighter sky
providing ~800 lux, still far from what I am expecting.

Hopefully someone can spot the problem straight away;

Cheers,

Jake Osborne

Hi Jack,

you missed obviously something important - either you missed to generate the sky (then you have just the sun influence) or you made a mistake in using rtrace.
It has nothing to do with gendaylit.

you need a sky description like this:

skyfunc glow sky_glow
0
4 1 1 1 0

sky_glow source sky
0
4 0 0 1 180

skyfunc glow ground_glow
0
4 1 1 1 0

ground_glow source ground
0
4 0 0 -1 180

putting that into an octree:

oconv -f new.sky outside.rad >test.oct

and then call rtrace using the -I and -ab 1 option:

echo 0 0 0 0 0 1 |rtrace -h -I -ab 1 test.oct | rcalc -e '$1=47.4*$1+120*$2+11.6*$3'

Then you get: 17572.5875 lux.

Best,
Jan

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On 03/21/2012 09:34 AM, Jake Osborne wrote:

As part of a project I am comparing measured data from both Berkeley and the Isle de la Reunion to simulated illuminances under the Perez sky model in both Radiance and 3ds Max Design, however Gendaylit seems to be producing incorrect sky descriptions for the overcast days in the dataset. I am wondering if I am missing something critical.

Below is the command I am using to produce a sky description, for 10:30am on a particularly overcast winter day in Berkeley, with the measured direct radiation being 0.15W/m^2 and the measured diffuse being 155.13 W/m^2:

gendaylit 12 4 10.5 -W 0.15 155.13 -g 0.2 -a 37.88 -o -122.25 -m -120 > new.sky

This produces a sky that when simulated (using rtrace, with the -I option, and multiplying by 179) only gives a global horizontal illuminance of ~12lux, rather than the expected ~19,000lux.

Using the -O option with a value of 2 produces a significantly brighter sky providing ~800 lux, still far from what I am expecting.

Hopefully someone can spot the problem straight away;

Cheers,

Jake Osborne

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Hi, thanks Jan,

That was it. Not sure how I missed it; perhaps thinking too hard and missed
the obvious.

Cheers,

Jake Osborne

It's a FAQ, along with the "no light sources" message.

Randolph

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On 2012-03-21 11:29:52 +0000, Jake Osborne said:

Hi, thanks Jan,

That was it. Not sure how I missed it; perhaps thinking too hard and missed the obvious.

Cheers,

Jake Osborne
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