Difference...

Hi everyone,

Thanks alot for the responses that came from Jack de Valpine & Giulio Antonutto.
I am currenting experimenting with Desktop Radiance 2.0 Beta. How accurate is this compared to the Unix based Radiance. Is there a difference in outputs?

Regards,
Ali.

Hi Ali,

As I understand it, the active development for Desktop Radiance ceased some time ago. It uses an older version of the Radiance simulation engine than what is currently available in the standard Radiance distribution. If you want something with a front end gui you might take a look at Rayfront (www.schorsch.com) otherwise there are compiles of Radiance binaries for cygwin (www.cygwin.com) which runs under windows. The current version of Radiance has quite a few powerful new features and enhancements that the older version does not.

Hope this helps,

-Jack

sasa mj wrote:

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Hi everyone,

Thanks alot for the responses that came from Jack de Valpine & Giulio Antonutto.
I am currenting experimenting with Desktop Radiance 2.0 Beta. How accurate is this compared to the Unix based Radiance. Is there a difference in outputs?

Regards,
Ali.

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Hi all,

I am new to this enviornemnt.

I have been doing day lighting analysis using IES which has radiance built
in to it, but the modeling agent that IES caries is very poor. I have
created the geometry in CATIA and would like to use radiance to analyze it.

I guess my first question is where can I find radiance?
Does it work on windows? If so what version? (currently running windows xp)

Thanks
Charlie.

Francesco is offering Windows binaries here:

http://www.bozzograo.net/radiance/modules.php?op=modload
<http://www.bozzograo.net/radiance/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads
&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=4>
&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=4

AFAIK they don't include any user interfaces (rvu, ximage). But you can
use them
for rendering and convert the images to a Windows friendly format.

Rayfront (see www.schorsch.com) offers a complete interface on Windows
but uses an older version of Radiance (not that it'd make a big
difference in
everyday use).

Regards,
Thomas

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Hi all,

I am new to this enviornemnt.

I have been doing day lighting analysis using IES which has radiance
built in to it, but the modeling agent that IES caries is very poor. I
have created the geometry in CATIA and would like to use radiance to
analyze it.

I guess my first question is where can I find radiance?
Does it work on windows? If so what version? (currently running windows
xp)

Thanks
Charlie.

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Ali,

To add to what Jack mentioned, if you wish to use the Desktop Radiance AutoCad front end and still use a more recent version of Radiance, you can try replacing the Desktop Radiance binaries (usually located in c:\Radiance\bin) with the Windows binaries compiled by Francesco Anselmo (select "Mingw Radiance Binaries"):

http://www.bozzograo.net/radiance/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=4

I think that these binaries are compiled from either Radiance version 3.6 or 3.7. You can not run the cygwin binaries directly from the Desktop Radiance front end. You will have to export the geometry from DR and run the binaries from cygwin's BASH shell. However, if you use the Windows binaries compiled by Francesco, you should be able to run these binaries (e.g. rad, oconv, rpict, rtrace, etc) directly from DR. However, it should be noted that you will not be able to use DR's winrview with octrees that are built with the Francesco's Windows binaries.

Marcus

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From: Jack de Valpine >
Hi Ali,

As I understand it, the active development for Desktop Radiance ceased
some time ago. It uses an older version of the Radiance simulation
engine than what is currently available in the standard Radiance
distribution. If you want something with a front end gui you might take
a look at Rayfront (www.schorsch.com) otherwise there are compiles of
Radiance binaries for cygwin (www.cygwin.com) which runs under windows.
The current version of Radiance has quite a few powerful new features
and enhancements that the older version does not.

Hope this helps,

-Jack

sasa mj wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thanks alot for the responses that came from Jack de Valpine & Giulio
> Antonutto.
> I am currenting experimenting with Desktop Radiance 2.0 Beta. How
> accurate is this compared to the Unix based Radiance. Is there a
> difference in outputs?
>
> Regards,
> Ali.
>

Bleicher, Thomas wrote:

Francesco is offering Windows binaries here:
http://www.bozzograo.net/radiance/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=4 <http://www.bozzograo.net/radiance/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=4>
AFAIK they don't include any user interfaces (rvu, ximage). But you can use them
for rendering and convert the images to a Windows friendly format.
Rayfront (see www.schorsch.com <http://www.schorsch.com>) offers a complete interface on Windows
but uses an older version of Radiance (not that it'd make a big difference in
everyday use).

Hi Thomas,

Actually, the release notes for the last few releases are sprinkled with all kinds of improvements and bug fixes that make the newer binaries really desirable in my book. So much so, that even though we use Rayfront here at my job, we pretty much only use it for geometry import and material application -- essentially, for scene generation. After that, we use the latest binaries on Linux to actually create octrees and images*.

A couple of things that I now take for granted with the newer binaries is the ability of oconv to generate octrees out of very complex geometry with far less "set overflow in addobject" errors, and the fixed rpict bug that caused half the image to be garbled in certain scenes with many light sources. There were some fairly serious bugs fixed along the way too. If there's any way that people can run the latest Radiance on Linux or OS X, (IOW, any 'real' operating system), I highly recommend they do so. That said, I think it's great all the efforts made by Francesco and Schorsch and others in getting _something_ running on Windows. I just believe that the latest-greatest-Radiance is worth the hassle of Linux (or the expense of OS X).

*On an unrelated note, I think "octrees and images" is a good name for a band. =8-)

- Rob