Cmake for Radiance

radiance-dev
1

I was building Ogre3D yesterday (cross platform 3D engine) & was amazed at how easy it was to build.
Their implementation of CMake (http://cmake.org/cmake/project/about.html ) made everything so ridiculously easy I was thinking there must be some sort of "gotcha" coming but if there is, I've yet to find it.
As build & release engineering is one of my (many) roles I got to thinking about CMake & the first thing which popped into my head was how much better it would make building Radiance if implemented (especially on Windows as using Scons + MinGW isn't the best experience in my opinion).
Has anyone taken a look at this yet & if so how far did you get with it?

Palbinder Sandher
Software Platform Engineer
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F:+44 (0) 141 945 8501
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Hi Palbinder,

Funny you should ask. At NREL we have been working on exactly that, a
Cmake build/dashboard system for cross platform building of Radiance. The
project is nearly complete, and Greg Ward has folded in the changes
necessary to make it work. We plan to go live with a support page on our
OpenStudio website (openstudio.nrel.gov) that will include links to binary
installers for Windows, Mac and Linux, as well as instructions on how to
add your own machines to the dashboard. The more people add machines to
the dash, the more robust the testing environment becomes, since each
machine can be configured to grab the HEAD release, build and run some
tests of the binaries. At the moment the test suite is not very robust,
but it at least attempts to exercise the core components of Radiance
(oconv, rtrace, rpict, rtcontrib, genskyvec, dctimestep, xform). More
tests can be added anytime, and as I said the more diverse the member
systems, the better the quality of the test results.

A side bonus of the Radiance Dashboard project is that we now have a
Qt-based version of rvu, that will run on all three major platforms -- as
in, we will finally have a Windows rvu!

I hope to announce this project soon. I also gave a presentation on the
project at the Radiance Workshop in August:
(http://www.radiance-online.org/radiance-workshop10/presentations/day2/RG_R
adiance-dash.pdf)

Cheers,
-Rob

Rob Guglielmetti IESNA, LEED AP
Commercial Buildings Research Group
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
1617 Cole Blvd MS:RSF202
Golden, CO 80401
T. 303.275.4319
F. 303.630.2055
E. robert.guglielmetti@nrel.gov

···

On 11/9/11 9:55 AM, "Pally Sandher" <pally.sandher@iesve.com> wrote:

I was building Ogre3D yesterday (cross platform 3D engine) & was amazed
at how easy it was to build.
Their implementation of CMake (http://cmake.org/cmake/project/about.html
) made everything so ridiculously easy I was thinking there must be some
sort of "gotcha" coming but if there is, I've yet to find it.
As build & release engineering is one of my (many) roles I got to
thinking about CMake & the first thing which popped into my head was how
much better it would make building Radiance if implemented (especially on
Windows as using Scons + MinGW isn't the best experience in my opinion).
Has anyone taken a look at this yet & if so how far did you get with it?

Palbinder Sandher
Software Platform Engineer
T:+44 (0) 141 945 8500
F:+44 (0) 141 945 8501
http://www.iesve.com

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let me know if you would like to have OpenStudio being packaged for Debian - as
you are using CMake it should be pretty easy!

Cheers,

Bernd

···

On 11/09/2011 06:11 PM, Guglielmetti, Robert wrote:

Hi Palbinder,

Funny you should ask. At NREL we have been working on exactly that, a
Cmake build/dashboard system for cross platform building of Radiance. The
project is nearly complete, and Greg Ward has folded in the changes
necessary to make it work. We plan to go live with a support page on our
OpenStudio website (openstudio.nrel.gov) that will include links to binary
installers for Windows, Mac and Linux, as well as instructions on how to
add your own machines to the dashboard. The more people add machines to
the dash, the more robust the testing environment becomes, since each
machine can be configured to grab the HEAD release, build and run some
tests of the binaries. At the moment the test suite is not very robust,
but it at least attempts to exercise the core components of Radiance
(oconv, rtrace, rpict, rtcontrib, genskyvec, dctimestep, xform). More
tests can be added anytime, and as I said the more diverse the member
systems, the better the quality of the test results.

A side bonus of the Radiance Dashboard project is that we now have a
Qt-based version of rvu, that will run on all three major platforms -- as
in, we will finally have a Windows rvu!

I hope to announce this project soon. I also gave a presentation on the
project at the Radiance Workshop in August:
(http://www.radiance-online.org/radiance-workshop10/presentations/day2/RG_R
adiance-dash.pdf)

--
Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer
http://bzed.de http://www.debian.org
GPG Fingerprint: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F

4

Hi Bernd,

I think it's a given that many people would appreciate that!

-Greg

···

From: Bernd Zeimetz <bernd@bzed.de>
Date: November 12, 2011 3:01:53 AM PST

let me know if you would like to have OpenStudio being packaged for Debian - as
you are using CMake it should be pretty easy!

Cheers,

Bernd

--
Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer
http://bzed.de http://www.debian.org
GPG Fingerprint: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F

5

Hi Bernd,

Thanks for the offer! Though thanks to CMake, we actually already provide Debian packages for OpenStudio. Makes installation very convenient.

- Rob

···

________________________________________
From: Bernd Zeimetz [bernd@bzed.de]
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 4:01 AM
To: radiance-dev@radiance-online.org
Subject: Re: [Radiance-dev] Cmake for Radiance

On 11/09/2011 06:11 PM, Guglielmetti, Robert wrote:

Hi Palbinder,

Funny you should ask. At NREL we have been working on exactly that, a
Cmake build/dashboard system for cross platform building of Radiance. The
project is nearly complete, and Greg Ward has folded in the changes
necessary to make it work. We plan to go live with a support page on our
OpenStudio website (openstudio.nrel.gov) that will include links to binary
installers for Windows, Mac and Linux, as well as instructions on how to
add your own machines to the dashboard. The more people add machines to
the dash, the more robust the testing environment becomes, since each
machine can be configured to grab the HEAD release, build and run some
tests of the binaries. At the moment the test suite is not very robust,
but it at least attempts to exercise the core components of Radiance
(oconv, rtrace, rpict, rtcontrib, genskyvec, dctimestep, xform). More
tests can be added anytime, and as I said the more diverse the member
systems, the better the quality of the test results.

A side bonus of the Radiance Dashboard project is that we now have a
Qt-based version of rvu, that will run on all three major platforms -- as
in, we will finally have a Windows rvu!

I hope to announce this project soon. I also gave a presentation on the
project at the Radiance Workshop in August:
(http://www.radiance-online.org/radiance-workshop10/presentations/day2/RG_R
adiance-dash.pdf)

let me know if you would like to have OpenStudio being packaged for Debian - as
you are using CMake it should be pretty easy!

Cheers,

Bernd

--
Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer
http://bzed.de http://www.debian.org
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Hi,

Thanks for the offer! Though thanks to CMake, we actually already provide Debian packages for OpenStudio. Makes installation very convenient.

would you be interested to maintain them in Debian directly? I could review your
packaging and sponsor the necessary uploads.

Cheers,

Bernd

···

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7

Thanks Bernd!

I'll put you in touch with our CMake guru offline and you guys can sort this out.

Thanks again,

Rob

···

________________________________________
From: Bernd Zeimetz [bernd@bzed.de]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:58 AM
To: radiance-dev@radiance-online.org
Subject: Re: [Radiance-dev] Cmake for Radiance

Hi,

Thanks for the offer! Though thanks to CMake, we actually already provide Debian packages for OpenStudio. Makes installation very convenient.

would you be interested to maintain them in Debian directly? I could review your
packaging and sponsor the necessary uploads.

Cheers,

Bernd

--
Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer
http://bzed.de http://www.debian.org
GPG Fingerprint: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F

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So did this ever get any closer to public release?

Also why are Radiance releases not announced on this list? 4.1 was apparently released in November 2011 according to http://radsite.lbl.gov/radiance/download.html but there's no communication beyond that page I can see (http://www.radiance-online.org/ still mentions version "4R0" on its downloads page).

Palbinder Sandher
Software Platform Engineer
T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500
F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501
http://www.iesve.com

**Design, Simulate + Innovate with the <Virtual Environment>**
Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No. SC151456
Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park, Glasgow G20 0SP
Email Disclaimer

···

-----Original Message-----
From: Guglielmetti, Robert [mailto:Robert.Guglielmetti@nrel.gov]
Sent: 09 November 2011 17:13
To: code development
Subject: Re: [Radiance-dev] Cmake for Radiance

Hi Palbinder,

Funny you should ask. At NREL we have been working on exactly that, a
Cmake build/dashboard system for cross platform building of Radiance. The
project is nearly complete, and Greg Ward has folded in the changes
necessary to make it work. We plan to go live with a support page on our
OpenStudio website (openstudio.nrel.gov) that will include links to binary
installers for Windows, Mac and Linux, as well as instructions on how to
add your own machines to the dashboard. The more people add machines to
the dash, the more robust the testing environment becomes, since each
machine can be configured to grab the HEAD release, build and run some
tests of the binaries. At the moment the test suite is not very robust,
but it at least attempts to exercise the core components of Radiance
(oconv, rtrace, rpict, rtcontrib, genskyvec, dctimestep, xform). More
tests can be added anytime, and as I said the more diverse the member
systems, the better the quality of the test results.

A side bonus of the Radiance Dashboard project is that we now have a
Qt-based version of rvu, that will run on all three major platforms -- as
in, we will finally have a Windows rvu!

I hope to announce this project soon. I also gave a presentation on the
project at the Radiance Workshop in August:
(http://www.radiance-online.org/radiance-workshop10/presentations/day2/RG_R
adiance-dash.pdf)

Cheers,
-Rob

Rob Guglielmetti IESNA, LEED AP
Commercial Buildings Research Group
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
1617 Cole Blvd MS:RSF202
Golden, CO 80401
T. 303.275.4319
F. 303.630.2055
E. robert.guglielmetti@nrel.gov

On 11/9/11 9:55 AM, "Pally Sandher" <pally.sandher@iesve.com> wrote:

I was building Ogre3D yesterday (cross platform 3D engine) & was amazed
at how easy it was to build.
Their implementation of CMake (http://cmake.org/cmake/project/about.html
) made everything so ridiculously easy I was thinking there must be some
sort of "gotcha" coming but if there is, I've yet to find it.
As build & release engineering is one of my (many) roles I got to
thinking about CMake & the first thing which popped into my head was how
much better it would make building Radiance if implemented (especially on
Windows as using Scons + MinGW isn't the best experience in my opinion).
Has anyone taken a look at this yet & if so how far did you get with it?

Palbinder Sandher
Software Platform Engineer
T:+44 (0) 141 945 8500
F:+44 (0) 141 945 8501
http://www.iesve.com

**Design, Simulate + Innovate with the <Virtual Environment>**
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SC151456
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Hi Pally,

Yes, we got closer, but not across the finish line. We are very close,
however. We are working out a subcontract with Kitware (the CMake guys)
right now to provide support to wrap the project up. I apologize for the
delay, but I assure you we are very close to making the announcement.

Greg will have to weigh in on the Radiance release announcement question.
I thought he did announce releases on radiance-general?

Rob Guglielmetti IESNA, LEED AP
Commercial Buildings Research Group
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
1617 Cole Blvd MS:RSF202
Golden, CO 80401
T. 303.275.4319
F. 303.630.2055
E. robert.guglielmetti@nrel.gov

···

On 3/5/12 10:40 AM, "Pally Sandher" <pally.sandher@iesve.com> wrote:

So did this ever get any closer to public release?

Also why are Radiance releases not announced on this list? 4.1 was
apparently released in November 2011 according to
http://radsite.lbl.gov/radiance/download.html but there's no
communication beyond that page I can see (http://www.radiance-online.org/
still mentions version "4R0" on its downloads page).

Palbinder Sandher
Software Platform Engineer
T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500
F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501
http://www.iesve.com

**Design, Simulate + Innovate with the <Virtual Environment>**
Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No.
SC151456
Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Guglielmetti, Robert [mailto:Robert.Guglielmetti@nrel.gov]
Sent: 09 November 2011 17:13
To: code development
Subject: Re: [Radiance-dev] Cmake for Radiance

Hi Palbinder,

Funny you should ask. At NREL we have been working on exactly that, a
Cmake build/dashboard system for cross platform building of Radiance. The
project is nearly complete, and Greg Ward has folded in the changes
necessary to make it work. We plan to go live with a support page on our
OpenStudio website (openstudio.nrel.gov) that will include links to binary
installers for Windows, Mac and Linux, as well as instructions on how to
add your own machines to the dashboard. The more people add machines to
the dash, the more robust the testing environment becomes, since each
machine can be configured to grab the HEAD release, build and run some
tests of the binaries. At the moment the test suite is not very robust,
but it at least attempts to exercise the core components of Radiance
(oconv, rtrace, rpict, rtcontrib, genskyvec, dctimestep, xform). More
tests can be added anytime, and as I said the more diverse the member
systems, the better the quality of the test results.

A side bonus of the Radiance Dashboard project is that we now have a
Qt-based version of rvu, that will run on all three major platforms -- as
in, we will finally have a Windows rvu!

I hope to announce this project soon. I also gave a presentation on the
project at the Radiance Workshop in August:
(http://www.radiance-online.org/radiance-workshop10/presentations/day2/RG_
R
adiance-dash.pdf)

Cheers,
-Rob

Rob Guglielmetti IESNA, LEED AP
Commercial Buildings Research Group
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
1617 Cole Blvd MS:RSF202
Golden, CO 80401
T. 303.275.4319
F. 303.630.2055
E. robert.guglielmetti@nrel.gov

On 11/9/11 9:55 AM, "Pally Sandher" <pally.sandher@iesve.com> wrote:

I was building Ogre3D yesterday (cross platform 3D engine) & was amazed
at how easy it was to build.
Their implementation of CMake (http://cmake.org/cmake/project/about.html
) made everything so ridiculously easy I was thinking there must be some
sort of "gotcha" coming but if there is, I've yet to find it.
As build & release engineering is one of my (many) roles I got to
thinking about CMake & the first thing which popped into my head was how
much better it would make building Radiance if implemented (especially on
Windows as using Scons + MinGW isn't the best experience in my opinion).
Has anyone taken a look at this yet & if so how far did you get with it?

Palbinder Sandher
Software Platform Engineer
T:+44 (0) 141 945 8500
F:+44 (0) 141 945 8501
http://www.iesve.com

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I'm not on radiance-general so I likely missed it.

Good to hear the progress with the CMake release is close. I can't wait to give it a go if it means never having to deal with Scons ever again! No apologies needed =)

Palbinder Sandher
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-----Original Message-----
From: Guglielmetti, Robert [mailto:Robert.Guglielmetti@nrel.gov]
Sent: 05 March 2012 17:47
To: code development
Subject: Re: [Radiance-dev] Cmake for Radiance

Hi Pally,

Yes, we got closer, but not across the finish line. We are very close,
however. We are working out a subcontract with Kitware (the CMake guys)
right now to provide support to wrap the project up. I apologize for the
delay, but I assure you we are very close to making the announcement.

Greg will have to weigh in on the Radiance release announcement question.
I thought he did announce releases on radiance-general?

Rob Guglielmetti IESNA, LEED AP
Commercial Buildings Research Group
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
1617 Cole Blvd MS:RSF202
Golden, CO 80401
T. 303.275.4319
F. 303.630.2055
E. robert.guglielmetti@nrel.gov

On 3/5/12 10:40 AM, "Pally Sandher" <pally.sandher@iesve.com> wrote:

So did this ever get any closer to public release?

Also why are Radiance releases not announced on this list? 4.1 was
apparently released in November 2011 according to
http://radsite.lbl.gov/radiance/download.html but there's no
communication beyond that page I can see (http://www.radiance-online.org/
still mentions version "4R0" on its downloads page).

Palbinder Sandher
Software Platform Engineer
T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500
F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501
http://www.iesve.com

**Design, Simulate + Innovate with the <Virtual Environment>**
Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No.
SC151456
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Glasgow G20 0SP
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-----Original Message-----
From: Guglielmetti, Robert [mailto:Robert.Guglielmetti@nrel.gov]
Sent: 09 November 2011 17:13
To: code development
Subject: Re: [Radiance-dev] Cmake for Radiance

Hi Palbinder,

Funny you should ask. At NREL we have been working on exactly that, a
Cmake build/dashboard system for cross platform building of Radiance. The
project is nearly complete, and Greg Ward has folded in the changes
necessary to make it work. We plan to go live with a support page on our
OpenStudio website (openstudio.nrel.gov) that will include links to binary
installers for Windows, Mac and Linux, as well as instructions on how to
add your own machines to the dashboard. The more people add machines to
the dash, the more robust the testing environment becomes, since each
machine can be configured to grab the HEAD release, build and run some
tests of the binaries. At the moment the test suite is not very robust,
but it at least attempts to exercise the core components of Radiance
(oconv, rtrace, rpict, rtcontrib, genskyvec, dctimestep, xform). More
tests can be added anytime, and as I said the more diverse the member
systems, the better the quality of the test results.

A side bonus of the Radiance Dashboard project is that we now have a
Qt-based version of rvu, that will run on all three major platforms -- as
in, we will finally have a Windows rvu!

I hope to announce this project soon. I also gave a presentation on the
project at the Radiance Workshop in August:
(http://www.radiance-online.org/radiance-workshop10/presentations/day2/RG_
R
adiance-dash.pdf)

Cheers,
-Rob

Rob Guglielmetti IESNA, LEED AP
Commercial Buildings Research Group
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
1617 Cole Blvd MS:RSF202
Golden, CO 80401
T. 303.275.4319
F. 303.630.2055
E. robert.guglielmetti@nrel.gov

On 11/9/11 9:55 AM, "Pally Sandher" <pally.sandher@iesve.com> wrote:

I was building Ogre3D yesterday (cross platform 3D engine) & was amazed
at how easy it was to build.
Their implementation of CMake (http://cmake.org/cmake/project/about.html
) made everything so ridiculously easy I was thinking there must be some
sort of "gotcha" coming but if there is, I've yet to find it.
As build & release engineering is one of my (many) roles I got to
thinking about CMake & the first thing which popped into my head was how
much better it would make building Radiance if implemented (especially on
Windows as using Scons + MinGW isn't the best experience in my opinion).
Has anyone taken a look at this yet & if so how far did you get with it?

Palbinder Sandher
Software Platform Engineer
T:+44 (0) 141 945 8500
F:+44 (0) 141 945 8501
http://www.iesve.com

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Hi Pally,

I did put together a 4.1 release on radsite, but have not updated radiance-online as yet. There are several reasons for this. To name a few:

A) I am waiting for some compiled binaries for systems other than Mac OS X. No one has offered any as yet, although I sent out an informal request to the usual suspects. I may be able to produce one myself using VMWare and Lubuntu, at least for Linux.

B) Related to A, I have been hoping for a working Windows release from Rob G. & Co., and they've been making progress as he says.

C) The HEAD version on radiance-online is essentially the same as 4.1 with a few bug fixes, so that's generally preferred unless binaries are desired. (See A.)

D) The folks at LBNL keep saying they want to sort out the confusion between radsite and radiance-online, at least as far as releases go, and I keep hoping for movement on that and being disappointed. My ability with HTML is limited to minor tweaks and changes, and I don't have the time or the chops to do a major cleanup like the one needed.

So, those are my excuses. I could copy what's on radsite to radiance-online and take off the links to the other 4.0 binaries, but would that really help anyone?

-Greg

···

From: Pally Sandher <pally.sandher@iesve.com>
Date: March 5, 2012 9:40:24 AM PST

So did this ever get any closer to public release?

Also why are Radiance releases not announced on this list? 4.1 was apparently released in November 2011 according to http://radsite.lbl.gov/radiance/download.html but there's no communication beyond that page I can see (http://www.radiance-online.org/ still mentions version "4R0" on its downloads page).

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F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501
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When this thing is done, we (NREL) will be offering binary downloads for
all three platforms in some form or fashion, that hopefully LBNL could
link to. (?) I don't think .rpm or .deb will happen, but at least there'll
be a tarball of ./bin and ./lib for Linux users. There will be a Mac
"package" (disk image with installer), and for Win there will be an NSIS
installer.

···

On 3/5/12 10:56 AM, "Gregory J. Ward" <gregoryjward@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Pally,

I did put together a 4.1 release on radsite, but have not updated
radiance-online as yet. There are several reasons for this. To name a
few:

A) I am waiting for some compiled binaries for systems other than Mac OS
X. No one has offered any as yet, although I sent out an informal
request to the usual suspects. I may be able to produce one myself using
VMWare and Lubuntu, at least for Linux.

B) Related to A, I have been hoping for a working Windows release from
Rob G. & Co., and they've been making progress as he says.

13

Hi all,

When this thing is done, we (NREL) will be offering binary downloads for
all three platforms in some form or fashion, that hopefully LBNL could
link to. (?) I don't think .rpm or .deb will happen, but at least there'll
be a tarball of ./bin and ./lib for Linux users. There will be a Mac
"package" (disk image with installer), and for Win there will be an NSIS
installer.

It seems NREL does already have binaries for all three platforms for
download!
See:
https://openstudio.nrel.gov/getting-started-developer/getting-started-radiance

Or is it not finished yet?

Best Guy

14

Uhm, yeah, you weren't supposed to see those. =8-\

Those are actually incomplete. If you can, please hold off until the project is officially announced as complete. I really think it will be a matter of weeks.

Rob Guglielmetti IESNA, LEED AP
Commercial Buildings Research Group
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
1617 Cole Blvd MS:RSF202
Golden, CO 80401
T. 303.275.4319
F. 303.630.2055
E. robert.guglielmetti@nrel.gov

Hi all,

When this thing is done, we (NREL) will be offering binary downloads for
all three platforms in some form or fashion, that hopefully LBNL could
link to. (?) I don't think .rpm or .deb will happen, but at least there'll
be a tarball of ./bin and ./lib for Linux users. There will be a Mac
"package" (disk image with installer), and for Win there will be an NSIS
installer.

It seems NREL does already have binaries for all three platforms for download!
See: https://openstudio.nrel.gov/getting-started-developer/getting-started-radiance

Or is it not finished yet?

Best Guy

···

On 3/5/12 12:41 PM, "Guy Vaessen" <guy.vaessen@gmail.com<mailto:guy.vaessen@gmail.com>> wrote:

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Hi Pally,

I did put together a 4.1 release on radsite, but have not updated radiance-online as yet. There are several reasons for this. To name a few:

A) I am waiting for some compiled binaries for systems other than Mac OS X. No one has offered any as yet, although I sent out an informal request to the usual suspects. I may be able to produce one myself using VMWare and Lubuntu, at least for Linux.

Debian testing has 4.1. Rebuilding that for other Debian based distros is easy -
if somebody is interested I could upload a backport to Squeeze to
backports.debian.org - but please let me know that you are interested :slight_smile:

···

On 03/05/2012 06:56 PM, Gregory J. Ward wrote:

B) Related to A, I have been hoping for a working Windows release from Rob G. & Co., and they've been making progress as he says.

C) The HEAD version on radiance-online is essentially the same as 4.1 with a few bug fixes, so that's generally preferred unless binaries are desired. (See A.)

D) The folks at LBNL keep saying they want to sort out the confusion between radsite and radiance-online, at least as far as releases go, and I keep hoping for movement on that and being disappointed. My ability with HTML is limited to minor tweaks and changes, and I don't have the time or the chops to do a major cleanup like the one needed.

So, those are my excuses. I could copy what's on radsite to radiance-online and take off the links to the other 4.0 binaries, but would that really help anyone?

-Greg

From: Pally Sandher <pally.sandher@iesve.com>
Date: March 5, 2012 9:40:24 AM PST

So did this ever get any closer to public release?

Also why are Radiance releases not announced on this list? 4.1 was apparently released in November 2011 according to http://radsite.lbl.gov/radiance/download.html but there's no communication beyond that page I can see (http://www.radiance-online.org/ still mentions version "4R0" on its downloads page).

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